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Old August 21st, 2007, 08:33 PM

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I have sent 35 astral gems to Maverni. It's in your hands, Tyrant, but I think it's best to wait until we've got at least 150 astral saved up if you are trying for a big dispel right away. The worst thing that can happen is if we try for a big dispel and fail.
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Old August 22nd, 2007, 02:39 AM

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Pangea broke our NAP. Hopefully the dispel this turn will work or Ry'leh is in for a big payday...
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 10:06 PM
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Well, y'all sent so many gems that i seriously considered trying it with less and giving rebates, but i used the full 135 (+20 bonus = 155!) and we failed anyway. I'm boggled, but there it is. on the plus side that means we have a few more turns till he turns a profit (ahem).
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Well, that means he has the minimum (or close to it) in his Stellar Focus. Let's dispel that one, at least. 40-50 gems should do it. Better yet, someone should over-cast it.

Everyone besides the person over-casting Stellar Focus, start saving your astral gems until we get 300.

In addition (just to be safe), the anti-Ryleh offensive should begin immediately. I can send some mechanical men down there. It won't be a whole lot of guys, but I can open up another front on him.

Ulm, are you adjacent to him at all? I feel a little guilty for cancelling our NAP at a time like this, but I have land forces that have nothing to do--they'd be useless against Ryleh anyway. My centaurs are thirsty for blood, I can't control them!
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:29 AM

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I do not share borders with Ryleh and so care a bit less about the dispel. So I will no longer contribute towards the dispel. Now I must use my enormous stash of gems for our upcoming war. Which results in a landslide of gems for the aliens... Heck, I would even support the aliens against the centaurs .
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:36 AM
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ACH! The sidpel failed? Then you all know what's ahead of us. To arms brothers! Join HATE (Humanoids Against Tentacled Entities), together we can take him. Let mushy deeps be filled with R'lyeh brethen.

Okay we need to make some serious offense. Start making and taking plans for how to get underwater. I'm also quite sure that we need to coordinate our efforts. Could member of HATE send me their e-mail? Group-sending e-mails to the other HATE members seem to be best method of communication. We can't use the forums because, R'lyeh reads them too.

And I'd really like to see Panganea and Ulm make truce. If we want to kill R'lyeh before he finds really good uses to his gems, we are going to need everybody's help. I can forge water-breathing items for all parties. I need Charcoal Shields and Firebrands.
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I'm sure that there are more experienced players here than me. I haven't never even assaulted underwater with a pure land-mongrel nation! Those of you who have done it, speak out! How do you deal with poor amphibians being nearly useless undewater, because even with Water-breathing items your national troops are useless underwater. What combat spells even work underwater? Damn, I need to do some research. Althought I read that Shark Attack is good.

What about summons? I have access to Naiad Warriors, are they any good?
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Things I think I'm going to try: Sea King's Court, Pale Riders, Mechanical Men.. of course abominations if you have the research and the astral gems (I'm assuming no one does besides maybe Ryleh )..

I don't know about Naiad Warriors, I imagine they are pretty decent..

There's always the Sea King's Goblet and the Barrel of Air to get your national troops underwater, too. And once you're underwater, you can recruit tritons. Probably the best bet, though, is to get thugs equipped with Rings of Water Breathing and magic resistance items and send them underwater by themselves or in small groups. I guess. I'm not really sure what we're going to do, lol.

Piercer is a crossbow that works underwater. Incinerate is a fire spell that works. Of course water magic would be the best if you've got it.

This is going to be a tough road to hoe.. but if we all get at least one or two underwater groups together, we can outnumber Ryleh and take some provinces, at least. Any strong army of his that you see, just run away from. Don't engage. He can't stop all of us at once. Once we whittle him down to a few provinces, we'd have to start winning some battles, admittedly. Hopefully we'll have a strategy together by that point to do so.

I still remember this one game I was in, where I won every single battle I was involved in and still lost the game, pretty early, too. I was under attack from Ermor in the north, and I moved to intercept his army. Defeated it. Then Pangea attacked me from the south and since I wasn't down there, he took over several of my provinces before I got there. Once I did, I defeated his army, but I was beat-up and had to retreat from his reinforcements. I went back to my capital and started summoning troops. He took the remainder of my provinces. I finally left my capital, won another battle, but got beaten up bad again. He had more reinforcements seige my capital. I broke seige, won again, but this time was down to only my god. He seiged me again and then dominion killed me.

That is the game that is most memorable to me, so frustrating because I won every single frickin' battle!!! But, if you are outnumbered, there is basically nothing you can do. I think we can take Ryleh down, just no one engage his armies if you can help it. The goal is to take provinces, not to fight.

Edit: I change my mind about over-casting Stellar Focus, he will just over-cast it over us! He's making stupid #'s of astral gems per turn. We just need to rush his punk a$$.
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