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August 31st, 2007, 08:19 PM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
Ahh yes. Northern part of Germany was Defended by the Dutch, Belgiens, Germans and the Brits. Northern part of Germany would be the hardest to defend because it's wide open flat lnd and rolling hill. Perfect tank country.
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August 31st, 2007, 09:05 PM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
Not quite true I'm afraid. Only the part defended by the dutch and germans was 'open country'. The british and belgians had failry hilly and wooded terrain. Not good tank country at all.
But even the open part had it problems, there's only a small open corridor between Hamburg and Luneburg for the soviets to push through. After that it does widen but the whole area is rife with streams, rivers and canals. And depending on the season the rain made a lot of the open terrain to 'wet' for heavy vehicles. And lots of towns and villages were an advance could run into trouble.
So while it was certainly better tank terrain than the rest of west germany (except perhaps the stretch between munich and the danube) it doesn't come close to the open fields of the soviet union. It certainly wasn't perfect tank country.
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September 2nd, 2007, 02:47 AM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
Is the real life airport that huge? Remember that just two hexes = a football field in real life.
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September 2nd, 2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
Truthfully, no idea..., if not I guess they rebuilt it just before WW3.
Btw Mark, you've been there for real?
Here's the map I used as a basis for the MBT map. Can't say I did much meassuring of distances though...
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September 2nd, 2007, 11:07 PM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
Yellow line is 87 hexes long;
the center runway is 60 hexes long, bottom is 50.
The military base at the top is 20 hexes by 2.
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September 3rd, 2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
hmmm...., I'm going to have to scale it down, my air field is about twice the size of the real one. 
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September 4th, 2007, 06:17 PM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
This may be of interest for this project. It's a link to the most detailed list of NATO forces I've seen so far. It's an OB for 1989 though, not 1985, but it should allow for a good reference point.
Not all nations are as equally well detailed though. The real beauty here AFAIK is the german territorial forces.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/37695/NATO...of-Battle-1989
I've also attached the document as pdf file.
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September 7th, 2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: TOTAL WAR 1985
Operation Stoss: A Task Unworthy
East German forces plunge into West Berlin. Border Guards and regular army forces strike the Wedding area, defended by the French soliders of the 46th Regiment d'Infanterie and 11th Regiment de Chasseurs...
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