Any One Still Playing This Game?

Atrocities · #1 September 4th, 2007, 06:02 PM

Ok so SE IV is dead because no one on the SE V official site plays it. Hell that is a great indicator. Has it occurred to any one that perhaps most people who play SE IV that don't play SE V have no use for the SE V site thusly they are not registered there or simply choose not to post if they are? (IE Me.)

SE V is a fine game, and I would recommend it to any 4x gamer, after I have recommended SE IV to them.

Atrocities · #2 September 4th, 2007, 06:15 PM

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Sure there are a lot of old-time fans that prefer se4 to se5

I take it, because someone likes se4 over se5, that the only excuse for that fopa would be that they are an old-time fan? People discover SE IV and V everyday and not everyone is into SE V head or heals.

All because some of us have decided that SE V isn't for us shouldn't mandate that we be marginalized as "old-time fans" because that would be a totally unfair characterization.

Some people just prefer SE IV over SE V. Thats to say that some people like Civ 3 over Civ 4. (Shudder) It isn't about being an old-time fan boy, its about personal preferences.

It has nothing to do with being a fan of one game over the other.

Suicide Junkie · #3 September 4th, 2007, 06:59 PM

Which isn't to say that just because we like SE4 dosen't mean we aren't old timers... a decade is certainly ancient in Internet time.

StarShadow · #4 September 5th, 2007, 11:33 AM

Personally I still prefer SMAC/X over both Civ3 and IV...

capnq · #5 September 5th, 2007, 05:13 PM

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StarShadow said: Personally I still prefer SMAC/X over both Civ3 and IV...

I would like to second this, but I haven't played Civ3 or Civ4, so I can't really judge. But my impression from skimming the Civ3 manual was that it looked like a step backward. SMAC/X is definitely the best Civ-category game I have played. (Some people might argue that the Civ series is part of the 4X category, but it feels like a separate category to me.)

Atrocities · #6 September 5th, 2007, 05:26 PM

Fyron - "I never said you _had_ to be a fan of the series for some time to enjoy SE4... please stop putting words in my mouth."

I never intended to.

Xrati · #7 September 6th, 2007, 10:39 AM

I agree with AT on the fact that he, along with many other talented people put A LOT of hours in making ship sets and heavy modding. Then SEV comes out and pulls a �Microsofty� and changes all the formats for the file types!!!

Do you know how much really good work was left only to the SEIV game and not able to get into SEV without major modifications? It boggles my mind to think that work was ignored by the SEV version and that when SEVI comes out, will they pull another page from Gate�s book?

Captain Kwok · #8 September 6th, 2007, 11:36 AM

To be fair, the only significant change was the addition of .x models for facilities and ships. The remainder of the required files are still more or less the same image files as before.

It's just unfortunate that most of the sets designed for SE:IV were done with programs that didn't lend themselves well to the format used for SE:V.

Fyron · #9 September 6th, 2007, 03:34 PM

That's rather alarmist, don't you think? SE4 invalidated all the SE3 shipsets too (which was good, because they were just a set of tiny icons anyways), as well ditching as the binary data file format in favor of plain text files (also good). There were several hundred shipsets made for SE3 that became useless for SE4... Should we decry that too? SE5 is just another evolution, with real models alongside the portraits, and formula-based data files. There wasn't anything that could be done to keep the static data file format around, without a huge amount of bug-prone code to try to shoe-horn it into the system. Same with the purely 2d nature of the shipsets... How do you advance the system with 3d and still support model-less sets? SE6 will almost without doubt use the same model format (and hopefully Aaron negotiated continued use of the models in future releases), and similar data files, perhaps with more functions or user-definable functions. I don't see anything "Microsofty" about it...

Fyron · #10 September 5th, 2007, 05:29 PM

Civ3 was definitely a huge step backwards, even from Civ2 (plus expansions). It was more like Civ1.5. The true Civ3 was the Call to Power game... Civ4 has gone in somewhat of a different direction though. A few of the features of SMAC (and the Call to Power games) made their way into Civ4, but overall its gone in a much different direction than the older titles.