Technology Trade (again)

Suicide Junkie · #1 February 26th, 2002, 05:34 PM

The ones you're trading with have to have physics 2. You're probably trying to trade with a race that only has physics 1 so far...

PsychoTechFreak · #2 February 26th, 2002, 08:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
The ones you're trading with have to have physics 2. You're probably trying to trade with a race that only has physics 1 so far...

If this would be true, then the resources should not have been transferred. Because I have seen another issue where the other race was not able to deliver a specific tech, and they said something like : Sorry, no deal possible, we do not have what you want, and the resources have not been transferred in this case.

Suicide Junkie · #3 February 26th, 2002, 08:22 PM

Theres no reason why they can't accept the trade.

"Sure, we'll show you what we know about peeling bananas for 40K minerals"
It dosen't matter that you already know the tech, or are even more advanced that they are.

If you ask for something like psychic studies, which the race has zero levels in, then the AI will probably reject the deal. Otherwise, they'll be happy to teach remedial lessons in projectile weapons 101

Phoenix-D · #4 February 26th, 2002, 08:24 PM

"If this would be true, then the resources should not have been transferred. Because"

Hey, if you can scam the AI, shouldn't the AI be able to scam you?

Phoenix-D

Gryphin · #5 February 26th, 2002, 08:46 PM

For the most part I trade:
In the early game, Organics for Minerals
After I have colonized, (or control) all of the colonizable planets in my sphere of influance, I will trade One type of Colonizable Tech for another. To date, no AI has declined.

PsychoTechFreak · #6 February 26th, 2002, 11:14 PM

Now I know it for sure, I have done some checks with known values... and SJ you are (partially) right:

If e.g. race 2 has got physics 2, then the trade fails completely.
If race 2 has not got physics 2, then the "give package" of race 1 is gifted to race 2, and race 1 gets physics 1 + physics 1 which is worthless.

@phoenix-d: Hey, if you can scam the AI, shouldn't the AI be able to scam you? <http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...ns/icon10.gif>

I agree.

@gryphin: Yes, it works for the basic techs, but level 2 and above seem to be a problem.

capnq · #7 February 28th, 2002, 01:00 AM

I have been told that to trade multiple levels of technology, you have to put it in the deal multiple times (which seems to contradict the manual). I have made successful trades doing it this way.