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				 Re: Strange ship capture thing ! 
 I am having the same problems with capture ships in a PBW game, using stock 1.49.No matter how I edit strategies, in the combat simulator (also on tactical but set to auto) the ships always fail to board their enemies even though they have shield depleters and boarding parties.  This applies to enemy ships both with and without shields...
 Does this means ship capture is useless in Version 1.49??!!!  Damn, it was going to be such an important part of my strategy!
 
 Another question on boarding: in 1.41 (or Gold?) has anyone managed to make boarding ships that, when part of an attack fleet, zoom around the warships that are shooting at each other, and goes to the enemy corners to capture the non-combat ships there?
 
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				March 5th, 2002, 08:14 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Strange ship capture thing ! 
 "Does this means ship capture is useless in Version 1.49??!!!"
 Try sticking a token normal weapon on. That *might* help alleviate the bug.
 
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				 Re: Strange ship capture thing ! 
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				March 5th, 2002, 09:34 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Strange ship capture thing ! 
 Seems a bug to me.This feature had worked back in SE3. Capture ships with shield depleters did actually capture their enemies' ships.
 Guess MM could fix this.
 
 Now for another thing.
 You said create a fleet with capture ships and normal warships/shield depleting ones.
 Will it work for fleets actually? Fleets have their own strategies after all...
 
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				 Re: Strange ship capture thing ! 
 This may sound simplistic, but have you tried setting the primary strategy on optimal and the secondary on ship capture?
 This might tell the capture ships to use their weapons until there is an opening.  I don't have 1.49 so I don't know if this would have an effect.
 
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				 Re: Strange ship capture thing ! 
 Quarian, 
yes I have tried that too     
As for fleets, fleet orders are ignored if the ship's strategy includes "ships break formation"  
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				 Re: Strange ship capture thing ! 
 Boarding ships in Version 1.49 and below are only engaging ships that have no shields (either from start or dropped by fire from another ship). They will not engage any ship with shields with the "capture ship" strategy. There is no way around this. The bug was fixed in the gold release and the boarding ship will now hunt down the enemy, lower the enemies shields with weapon fire and then capture him. 
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