MA C'Tis, Let me get this straight.....

Shovah32 · #1 September 29th, 2007, 02:11 PM

I'm about 90% sure that poison resistance does not help.

RamsHead · #2 September 29th, 2007, 02:33 PM

Being coldblooded, lifeless, a demon, or having swamp survival makes you immune to the Miasma. Being undead prevents you from losing hitpoints to a disease. In other words, you are practically immune as an undead as well.

Meglobob · #3 September 29th, 2007, 04:30 PM

The good thing about Miasma is just like when you play LA R'yleh, LA Ermor it is difficult to attack you. So troublesome that it puts lots of players off attacking you.

Frostmourne27 · #4 September 29th, 2007, 07:33 PM

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RamsHead said:
Being coldblooded, lifeless, a demon, or having swamp survival makes you immune to the Miasma. Being undead prevents you from losing hitpoints to a disease. In other words, you are practically immune as an undead as well.

IIRC, undead don't get afflictions from diease either. If they do, the cahnce must be much lower. I can't ever remember diseased undead getting affliction outside of combat.

Ubercat · #5 September 29th, 2007, 09:37 PM

Wow. That's kind of messed up. There doesn't seem any point to giving MA C'Tis access to any pretenders that lack all of those protective characteristics.

I was trying an awake Manticore with no magic for early expansion, and 10 dominion to burn any invaders plus give my pretender awe. He had built in PR of 100, which obviously didn't help.

Thanks guys!

sector24 · #6 September 29th, 2007, 10:05 PM

I tried a manticore too. The thing is, he has so many hit points that it will still take 200+ turns for him to die of the disease. Since his usefulness quickly wanes after 30-50 turns you can ignore the disease or maybe get Gift of Health/Chalice to heal him. It's not a horrible choice.

RamsHead · #7 September 29th, 2007, 11:32 PM

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Frostmourne27 said:

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RamsHead said:
Being coldblooded, lifeless, a demon, or having swamp survival makes you immune to the Miasma. Being undead prevents you from losing hitpoints to a disease. In other words, you are practically immune as an undead as well.

IIRC, undead don't get afflictions from diease either. If they do, the cahnce must be much lower. I can't ever remember diseased undead getting affliction outside of combat.

I thought that you had to lose HP to get afflictions from a disease, hence why I didn't mention that. It is possible that you do not need to lose HP though. In either case you are correct undead do not get afflictions through disease or it is so rare as to not be any concern.

DrPraetorious · #8 September 30th, 2007, 02:33 AM

Personally, I think C'tis should (in every era,but it's in the MA that you'd care) get cold-blooded national summons with every magic path, to help overcome their inability to use indie mages, which I've always thought as a dealbreaker, in spite of their significant advantages.

Jazzepi · #9 September 30th, 2007, 03:33 AM

I don't think it's that bad. I'm recruiting enchantresses in a current game, and using rings of regen to keep them alive.

Miasma provides a +1% bonus to income per level of domininon, it *should* have a drawback.

Jazzepi

Tuidjy · #10 September 30th, 2007, 04:53 AM

Well, by turn 60 in my Pythium game, more than 50% of my mages are diseased (yes,
with life dominion) I assume that C'tis can do the same as my Pythium - start
large scale manufacture of Shrouds of the Battle Saint.