Mongoose - Starting (at last!)

[WonderLlama]

Don't worry about offending me. You certainly didn't say anything near as bad as Ermor did. I thought you were saying that what I did was legitimately not ok. Role playing makes learning the game and learning the rules of diplomacy a lot more confusing.

Mind hunt I understand and am ok with. I understand the theory of how to counter it. I just wasn't expecting to have to deal with it at the moment. And I sort of thought the newbie game rules meant treaties were more likely to be followed. But I understand what to expect from it, so I'm not panicking over it.

Blood magic is a different story; I have no idea what to expect from it. All I know is that people say it gets crazy powerful late game, and you have to deal with it early. And that it just dealt with two allies with ease.

Now back in the game, I am of course upset about the NAP. I'm also interested that my allies had an NAP that I didn't know about. I definitely still have tricks up my sleeves. Those seraphs were just a very expensive experiment. The trouble is, I've just seen two allies wounded extremely badly, and I haven't even seen the force that did it yet. If I can't even protect my allies, then what good am I? I am having an existential crisis.

[fabio80mi]

Greetings!
This is the player behind abysia speaking so no roleplaying involved.

What you did can be called cowardice especially if coming from the self-declared 'forces of good' but it was COMPLETELY a legit tactic both as a roleplay thing (abysia is, in fact , an evil nation:P) and as a diplomatic thing (you formed an alliance and attacked a nation your percieved as a threat).
So absolutely no whinings or ill-feeling on my part it's just the way the game plays :-)

However you couldn't expect me to go down without a fight and making you pay DEARLY for your invasion right??

Snd so now you have a fight! You may very well likely win (even with r'ylen defensive support) but who knows at least we'll have some fun :-)

As to explain r'yleh help well i actually expected it because of a precedent.
I was in very very good term with Ulm and r'yleh and tried hard for many turns to make them like each other and bring them together in a war front.
In the end, for a mistake i think, ulm invaded r'yleh so i could standby and do nothing (possibly losing 2 friends and being completely surrended by a very large and powerful nation) or pick one... i picked the one in my view was the invaded one and stook with him in the war.

Unfortunatly your 'alliance' had good intelligence and decided to attack me when most of my forces were away so now i can't committ with Ulm! i also tried to convince Ulm (and r'yleh both) to make peace well it didn't work :-)

Now i'm in a very interesting fight with 2 land nation attacking me in the west, your seraph in my backyard and ulm on the north.. interesting isn't it?

P.S.
Edit for blood magic-> it is of course a very good school of magic BUT though being powerful (ask marignon and arco:P) it's not invincible.
This is my first game playing medium abysia (even on sp..) and first mp game so i'm a very far away to master it.. guess i'll learn along the way as we are all doing !

[Sensori]

For what it's worth, the Starspawn of R'lyeh now notify the three allied Western nations (Arcoscephale, Caelum, Marignon) of the beginning of the formal cancellation of the various non-aggression pacts.

While it may be a pointless gesture, consider us at total war in four months (five as the case may be with one).

[Eldanesh]

I'm aware these things were out of character. Considering I'm playing Ulm with 3 drain U'd think I'd be trying to be dense and honest.

[Sensori]

You mean the things were "in character", on both sides, right? Out of character means that we would've been going on at each other on a personal level rather than as leaders of nashuns that are at odds. And you DO have an excellent point there! I never thought of it that way (the drain and denseness thing). It's kinda funny how I *constantly* use IC (short for in character lawl) rhetoric and then fail to realize when others do the same sometimes. Pretty fun way to play 'em, I must say. Well, not so fun for ME when the things started happening, because it lead to a heap of trouble and some frustration, but in retrospect, it's been a fun lil "debate".