Some things

Gryphin · #1 March 11th, 2002, 02:28 AM

Don't forget Empire Deluxe.
3X game from about 8 years ago.
256 colors
Simple 2D graphics
Superb easy to use senariou editor
Fair AI, (for the time)
Still a nice beer and pretzles game for a night when I can't sleep and too tired for SEIV.
In my opinio: Graphics for games are highly over rated.
My priorityes in no real order are:
Ease of play, (I would like to see this improved in SE but it is not a show stopper)

Acceptable AI, (keep in mind that the human mind makes more caculations per second than any super computer)

Depth, (not cheap)

Multi person play
We all have different wants and needs. Those are mine.

Grandpa Kim · #2 March 10th, 2002, 05:49 PM

Agree with all of you.

To put it simply, gameplay is everything, graphics are nothing.

TerranC · #3 March 10th, 2002, 06:05 PM

Well graphics are something, just that its not one of the top points.

Quite frankly, even MUDs have graphics.
There has to be something in the game that one of the senses can like in order for that game to sell.

capnq · #4 March 10th, 2002, 07:55 PM

I still play the original Civilization on my other computer while this one is doing long downloads or disk defrags. I still had the original Master of Orion installed on this one until just a few months ago.

I also have The Lost Treasures of Infocom collection, from back in the text adventure days when the only graphics were printed on the box, manual, and props.

Skulky · #5 March 11th, 2002, 03:01 AM

talk about playing older games... Try Colonization, The original game that started the Civ series. It is great economy management and has some military aspects but the main part is infrastructure, perfect practice for SE4 (as everyone knows it is at least 50% econ managment).

GTA1 + 2 not great graphics especially the first but funny gameplay.

Janes Fleet Command (forced me to by a Voodoo3) is the modern fleet combat simulator that took me away from Harpoon.

And Starcraft of course. I still play on B-net sometimes, only when PBW is down/im done submitting turns, it is so solid, less complicated than AOE II but super balanced.

Rlaney · #6 March 11th, 2002, 03:14 AM

Not to nitpick but Colonization did NOT start the civ series. Colonization and another one... can't remember what it was both came out from Microprose after the success of Civilization. Civ is great. I've played all but none ever made me feel like Civ1 did. Bought it at 5:00pm after I got off work, took it home, installed it, played for just a few turns(really..I swear) then looked at the clock and it was 3:30 am and I had to be back at work in 2 hours. What a bad day at work but IT WAS WORTH IT!!!

EvilKnight · #7 March 11th, 2002, 06:30 AM

I know ive hjave played them all guys but your missing what im saying. This is number 4 not 1 and the graphics still resemble the others. to be truthful im a gamer(gamer rehab it anit working) and i live in places like Babages and ive never seen this game or its pretessors. Its the look and the fact that they dont have a major distributor. even then ive seen some small time guys get in there with out a major one and hastings too. Im knocking the game ok. its the look guys look at MOO2.