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Old November 29th, 2007, 10:36 PM
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Yep and having insurance is a legal requirement for some things, so you can't get out of paying.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 01:45 AM

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It's a nice way of telling medium/lower level income people that rich people deserve to steal your money and theres not a damn thing you will ever do about it until you change the system...wait....the system is run by rich people....so ...yeah, your just screwed 6 ways from sunday.
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Old November 30th, 2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: OT: Apophis is going to kill us all

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Actually, you can, you just need a very large wad of cash to dedicate to it (at least, in the US). For instance, there's a particular amount of car insurance required (I don't remember the details, I'll call it $20,000 for now) to legally drive where I am. This is in case you get into an accident that's your fault - you have to be able to pay off the other guy to at least a minimum amount. If you can demonstrate you have the money squirreled away and dedicated to exactly that, that's your insurance - and it can draw interest (which you can siphon off). Theoretically, the law requiring the insurance is to protect everyone else (if you don't have the money, you can't pay their hospital bills) when you're at fault.
Some things are not required by law, but by contract. In this area, when you buy an actual new car, the contract on the car requires that you have full coverage until it's paid off - this is contractual, and is designed to make it so that the dealer doesn't lose money if you get into a wreck and see no need to continue payments (normally, if you simply stop paying, they can repossess the car; they can't do that effectively if the car is doing an accordion impression).

As to Insurance companies never paying out:
Don't know about your location, but in mine, they are actually legally obligated to pay out a particular minimum percentage every year - this still leaves them a big profit margin, but if nobody gets into a wreck, the car insurance company is (effectively) legally obligated to go smash headlights or something so that they can pay out on an insurance claim (fortunately, people in general are reckless enough that this doesn't happen). On a more personal note, my dad has been the beneficiary on an insurance company paying out an insurance claim - car insurance, specifically; got rear-ended, his insurance company got the money for the repairs from the other insurance company. All told, took maybe two or three weeks.
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Here in British Columbia we have a government-run vehicle insurance system. And a law requiring that you MUST have insurance through them and no one else is allowed to sell vehicle insurance in the province.

Now, normally, I am dead set against such socialist systems and am all for when an industry is privatized. Though I do have to say one thing about a public insurance company:

In theory, profit is NOT their bottom line, being a government agency (even though ICBC has a several BILLION dollar stockpile). When I did have a claim (rolled my car in a snow storm) I had my payout in 5 DAYS!!! And was in a new vehicle 10 days after having my accident.

I was pleasantly surprised as I was expecting to have to fight for my claim.
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