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December 10th, 2007, 03:14 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Arga Dis went under. Had we placed our mages forward a bit, and had decoys, we feel that Bandar Log's god would have gone down with a number of afflictions. However, with our entire army smashed+most mages dead, Tien Chi invading and one turn from our capital, 87 unrest in the capital thanks to spells by Tien Chi (presumably, since bandar log hasn't cast any so far), and pretty much no blood remaining, and our other fort seiged, the AI can handle things just as well...
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December 10th, 2007, 04:26 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
What would you say the determining factor in your demise was?
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December 10th, 2007, 07:32 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Well in my case I should really have gone blood, blood and more blood. It certainly would have helped to have got a blood economy up and running before Ulm Reborn's troops arrived - just to be able to pump out rats and more rats to soak more of the hits. My gem income has been pretty dire - maybe Man and Ulm will find the stuff I am missing [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Envy.gif[/img]
On the research front the mages of Skavenblight are pretty damn versatile. Spamming vengeance of the dead against Ulm's more accomplished mages was handy along with the ability to mind duel and fire off a range of death magicks when in combat. Communions and blood sabbaths would have been excellent to pull off more - with Lizard Shaman and Crystal Amazons I certainly had the raw material to back up my seers.
Death Frenzy is a very useful spell - but like Touch of Madness Skaven mages have a habit of firing it off a little bit much - though beserk Skaven priests are fair combatants. I know - don't give them death gems but sometimes you forget or have them scripted to do something else.
As for determining factor - my inability to fight a two front war. Had I been able to concentrate against Ulm I reckon I could have made a real mess of his first foray (as I was able to repeatedly remove his armies leaders with Vengeance of the Dead and Mind Duels). So whilst Man has done little of note they kept my reserve pinned when it needed to be thrown into the fray.
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December 10th, 2007, 03:00 PM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Yes, I must admit my flagellants have been a bit aimless - or rather, mainly they are waiting around for reinforcements - I got a bit scared of Skavenblight after my last army got annihilated. There was also an episode of bungling shortly before I attacked Skavenblight. My army had been split across two provinces (A and B), with all my commanders in A. So I moved the commanders to B to pick up the rest of the troops - only to realise I had brought no troops, so half of them were still in A. So then I traipsed back to A. And then I attacked and everyone died. Not so good.
Digress has actually been quite cunning in proclaiming his demise very early, which lead me to greatly underestimate him. Possibly the war might have gone much more swimmingly were it not for my feeling complacent after the initial invasion. As it is victories have probably been reasonably equal on both sides, with my advantage being that all the fighting is happening in Skaven territory, so their infrastructure and resources are falling apart while mine is thankfully unscathed.
Incidentally my initial army was eventually annihilated - but only having been split in two and then one half split in two again, comically without loss of troops as you were saying. And those surviving troops did remain a thorn in your side for a good amount of time. That must have been really annoying for you.
Congratulations go to Bandar for a truly spectacular comeback from two provinces back to being a powerful force. Also condolences to Arga Dis - well played sum1.
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December 10th, 2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Good fight sum1, that was a proper slugfest all the way through and you did much better than i expected in the final battle. /salute
Hate to tell you this, but had you marched straight to my capitol after your big victory about a yeear ago you would have had me, I had no more forces at that point.
It's too bad that your territory is as poverty stricken as my own and my victory is largely empty.
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December 10th, 2007, 07:24 PM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
I'm afraid I can't take my turn tonight (feeling quite ill so going to crawl into bed), so I've postponed hosting till tomorrow (postponed by 10 hours). Sorry about that.
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December 11th, 2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
Invading the lands of Skavenblight is beginning to feel like fighting a land war in Russia. Resources keep pouring in, yet no progress is being made. Barbarians attack newly occupied provinces, while my best commanders are continually killed off leaving stranded armies behind. This time my one captured fortress is under siege by independents. Aargh.
On the plus side I am feeling better this morning. Hurrah.
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December 11th, 2007, 11:23 AM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship
As llama starts to feel better I come down with the flu. That's timezones for you.
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December 11th, 2007, 08:36 PM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship (slowly)
I have come down with something too - bleh.
While the Skaven welcome disease in all its guises Clans Moulder and Pestilens claim to have no role in either the creation or dissemination of the current outbreak.
Skavenblight appears to have run out of space (and pushed unrest up perhaps a little high  ) in which to harvest the blood slaves required to spawn replacements for its army.
We continue to consign Ulm's greatest mages to the grave in feats of mindfrying brilliance (though my prophet got fried simultaneously this turn). Their armies continue forward in slow and somewhat disjointed steps grinding us further into the dust.
As for Man - well you best ask them about their continued campaign.
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December 12th, 2007, 09:03 PM
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Re: Rats to go down with ship (slowly)
I'm off on holiday to the Netherlands from tomorrow, just until Sunday night, to visit an old housemate of mine. Hopefully I'll be able to whack Dominions on their computer, but I'm not sure just how regularly I'll get to play so I think I had better stick the timer on 48 hours.
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