OT: New PC

mrscrogg · #1 December 11th, 2007, 11:21 AM

AT , alot of people will have an opinion of what you purchaesed , good and bad , if it's what you wanted just enjoy !

Xrati · #2 December 11th, 2007, 12:14 PM

Good Luck with your Christmas gift to yourself!!!

Gotta take care of number one!

Atrocities · #3 December 11th, 2007, 01:17 PM

I had thought about buying the parts and doing it all myself but then I ran a chance of repeating what had happened with the blue box. Bad experience. (Shudders horribly) Any ways the system I bought, yes it is an ugly case

, is almost 80% of what I wanted at about a 15% savings. I didn't get the second video card or HD, and the case is ugly. I opted out of the LCD monitor and went with a reserve power supply and XP pro over Vista. The system comes with a 3yr warranty, (which as we all know is pretty much buyer beware,) but it was also highly recommended by many. So in the end the trade off was build it yourself and live with it, or pay someone else to build if for you and live with it... and save 15%. I opted for the discount... I know, I am a sell out.

dogscoff · #4 December 11th, 2007, 01:42 PM

I don't think the case is ugly. It comes in different colours, too - I'd have gone for purple or the brown one.

Only a gig of ram? Given the outrageously fast processor I'd have thought you'd want more ram than that! Especially if you one day want to run Vista on it (which is a possibility, given that this is a gaming rig). That said, by the time Vista becomes bearable Direct X 10 will be available on XP anyway...

Atrocities · #5 December 11th, 2007, 02:08 PM

I will call and amend that right now. Thanks Dogscoff, great catch.

Santiago · #6 December 11th, 2007, 03:08 PM

If you're happy with what you got, that's all that really matters. Tho at least you didn't fall for Vista's reign of terror.

As a side note I seen an article talking about the new AMD triple core "Phenom" processor. Usually they're Dual or now Quad cores. Even Intel Ceo Otellini joked " We see a distinct advantage in having all the cores on our dies work". I thought that was funny. But for near 30 yrs cores have been an odd number as for all that time we all had 1 core.

Fyron · #7 December 11th, 2007, 09:29 PM

Santiago said:
"As a side note I seen an article talking about the new AMD triple core "Phenom" processor. Usually they're Dual or now Quad cores."

It's all about market segmentation and increasing die yields. Consider that the Xbox 360 has a 3-core processor (for improved die yields); any game codeveloped for it and the PC will probably benefit from the 3rd core of a quad core CPU, but not at all from the 4th core. Some gamers might be interested in the performance gains, but not interested in the full price premium of quad core. Offering an option between dual core and quad core will probably net AMD more profits, due to such consumers willing to spend a little extra, but not a lot.

Then, consider that plenty of quad core CPUs are scrap due to random silicon die issues. Every new CPU (and other chips) starts out with really low die yields, which improve over time as manufacturing techniques are refined. Plenty of those processors can still function if the issues cripple one core, but not 3 others (simply burn the paths connecting the bad core, alter a bit of EEPROM, and voila!). Why not try to sell them as a 3-core CPU instead of throwing them away? Not a bad way to pad the bottom line, if you ask me.

GuyOfDoom said:
"It was my understanding that DX10 was a unique feature of Vista that wouldn't have worked on previous versions of Windows."

DX 10 was engineered around the new kernel driver architecture, but there is nothing in DX 10 that couldn't be done with the older XP model. There is nothing technically preventing MS from back-porting DX 10 to XP; it would just be fairly time consuming and expensive to do it, and marketing decided it would be better to make it Vista-exclusive.

GuyOfDoom · #8 December 11th, 2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

dogscoff said:
by the time Vista becomes bearable Direct X 10 will be available on XP anyway...

It was my understanding that DX10 was a unique feature of Vista that wouldn't have worked on previous versions of Windows.

I also vote for more RAM, you can never have too much. My next computer will have 4GB minimum given that soon they will crack the 4GB wall and eventually Vista will rule the world.

AgentZero · #9 December 11th, 2007, 09:27 PM

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GuyOfDoom said:
It was my understanding that DX10 was a unique feature of Vista that wouldn't have worked on previous versions of Windows.

Officially yes. Unofficially it's already possible to run DX10 on XP. Unfortunately, it involves some serious shenanigans, and DX10b will probably bork it.

[/quote]I also vote for more RAM, you can never have too much. My next computer will have 4GB minimum given that soon they will crack the 4GB wall and eventually Vista will rule the world.

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Or you could get a proper operating system and not worry about this silly 4GB 'wall'. As of kernel version 2.4, Linux OSes will handle up to 64GB. And that's good enough for me.

Arkcon · #10 December 11th, 2007, 05:18 PM

Atrocities said:
and the case is ugly.

Oh, c'mon now how ugly can a case be... clicky, clicky, clicky. Ewww...that's not an impressive case at all. It is almost as bad as my Micron case from way back in 1998. Shudder.

... and save 15%. I opted for the discount... I know, I am a sell out.

Makes it all seem worthwhile to me.