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August 13th, 2002, 11:25 PM
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Re: LOTR -DVD Info
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Actually, I am of the opinion that LotR cannot be properly (read: entirely, accurately) appreciated without a solid knowledge of The Silmarillion and the other material. LotR is an amazing story in and of itself, one of the finest fantasy tales ever spun, without a doubt. But it is only the tip, the very tip, of the iceberg that is Tolkien's extended mythology, and like an iceberg, you cannot possibly imagine the grandeur and size and power of the whole if you've only seen the tip. Things like Aragorn's relationship with Arwen, the nature of Gandalf and Saruman, the true stature of the Elves, and the overall point of the story are revealed only by the larger context in which it is set.
Oh, and I agree that the movie is fabulous, a work of art. Too bad it should never, ever have been made in the first place.
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LOL... isn't that the truth? It's impossible to talk about the movie(s) without contradiction. Yes, it's great to see so many things from Tolkien's work made into cinematic images. But it's also impossible to make proper images of many of them, and also impossible to tell the whole story without making at least six movies, not three. The hack & slash approach to the story line is really jarring, even if he did manage to include the gist of it in the plot. And WTF is that "Lurtz^H^Hch" character for? Given how much he had to cut, why did he have to add something so cheesy? So watching the movie when you know the original story is both exciting and wrenching at the same time.
And yes, knowledge of the Silmarillion is essential to understanding the story and even the characters. The remote and formal Elrond is a very different person if you know his background. His personal experience with 'oaths' makes it quite understandable when he is so insistent in opposing with Gimli's wish to swear some sort of oath about their quest, for example.
[ August 13, 2002, 22:29: Message edited by: Baron Munchausen ]
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August 13th, 2002, 11:46 PM
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Re: LOTR -DVD Info
Singollo, that is why I said "mostly written". 
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August 14th, 2002, 01:23 AM
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Although there is something to be said for an author leaving some things to the imagination. Knowing only bits and pieces of the history can add to the mystery and discovery of reading the books. Of course this is just a guess, since I haven't actually read the books. 
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August 14th, 2002, 01:42 AM
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All the afore mentioned stuff is cool, as is this phenominal epic recreated on the screen, but I will wait until it is a complete set. I can picture myself already, a rainy Saturday in Olympia (which happens often in the Northwest) sitting on the couch and watching all three movies in order. PARADISE!!!
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August 14th, 2002, 03:10 AM
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You know I have to chime in hear and say that I for one feel cheated by what they pulled here. I wanted to buy only one DVD, not two. For them to release the first DVD without the extra footage, only to be releasing it in 3 months from now is a cheep and down right dirty trick. If I had not tossed the reciept, I would have returned the movie immedately. Now, I am only going to rent the next release, not buy it. It was a dirty will trick, and one that should not be tolerated. It was a cheep little way to exploite more money out of people. It was cheep and insulting.
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August 14th, 2002, 03:33 AM
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AT... I mentioned that in the orginal post... That there will be a second release later on in the year.... They announced that right from the beginning.... Sugar that was March 28th... were did this year go...
Tesco runs off and looks under the couch... not there...
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August 14th, 2002, 03:57 AM
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He forgets things. Just let it go. He will remeber something you told him a year ago sometime next year. 
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