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Old March 7th, 2008, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: Iraq errors report

No, I'm just going to pull them out. Let me know if I should remove the minelet arty ( Unit 206 and 566 )

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Short answer: unit 206 and 566 should not be available.

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Currently the the iraqi army has no minelet arty. As a matter of fact they have not had any artillery at all beyond mortars since the surrender in 2003, the first artillery units are going to be raised in 2009 if they stick to schedule. At this point there is no way to know if and when they will get some scatterable mines in the next decade without using the proverbial crystal ball.
In the past they may have had some limited scatterable mines capacity in the late 80's. They had what is referred to as Ababel/KPTM mine in the american UXO reports, it was seemingly rocket delivered (probably via BM-21 or some other MRLS). As of now I have very little info about the extent it was really an operational weapon.
As I see it you could either delete them (I don't remember any scenario using them) or leave them without formation so that they could eventually be modified into actually used weapons later on.
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In addition to the BTR-80, BTR-94 and M113 I noted previously the iraqi army has used the MT-LB since the end of 2004.

http://www.defendamerica.mil/article.../a113004d.html

In addition also the Dzik-3 since the beginning of 2006

http://www.warwheels.net/DZIK3index.html

An additional source about the BTR-80 delivery
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_fo...0729_1_n.shtml
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Units 219-262-396-603-605-607-912 should be deleted. There are absolutely no plans to aquire these V-150 vehicles (aside from the M1117 offshoot).
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In additio to the APCs listed previously Iraq uses also:

Panhard M3 since late 2004

http://www.defendamerica.mil/article.../a113004c.html

Up armored HMMWVs

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/news....aspx?id=48700
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?op...21&lang=arabic
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Armo...ed_HMMWVs.html
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Some of the old iraqi army EE-9 Cascavel have been refurbished and put back in use. Availability starting from january 2008 (I guess it could replace unit 603, the V150 armored car variant).

http://www.blackanthem.com/News/scit...les13820.shtml

Some BMP-1s, since 2005

http://www.defenselink.mil/home/feat...-02-Report.pdf

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...planned-01512/

http://www.armyrecognition.com/moyen...aq_news_06.jpg
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Now some units that should not be there, or at least be there with the availability dates they have.

Unit 46 Avenger
They have not it and certainly it hasn't been in the iraqi inventory since 2005. However given the nature of the system (american made, currently in service etc.) I cannot rule out that they may aquire it at some point in the future. I suggest a date change to 2010

Unit 215 M728 CEV
Same as above. They don't currently have it but I cannot rule out they might aquire it. I suggest the date being pushed forward to late 2008 or later.

Unit 301 BRDM-2b with TI sights
No such thing existed or was planned, although I understand it might have been a reasonable speculation back then.

Unit 333 Impr F/T APC
Flame tanks are so non PC these days it isn't even funny.
No such thing has ever been just only mentioned. I suggest it to be deleted.

Unit 381 M48A1 Chaparral
Never been supplied and unlikely to be. Unlike the Avenger it is also pretty much a dead system, especially by when the iraqi army will have started to worry about AD.

Unit 831 Vulcan AA Gun
Not there for now.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/multim...-Equipment.pdf
And various others sources.

EDIT
All the previous vehicles have 2005 as starting date.

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