Why do people hate on Ulm?

capnq · #1 March 22nd, 2008, 07:12 AM

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Evil Dave said: Way back when the earth was young and I'd just picked up Dom2, people recommended Ulm because it was easy to learn.

That recommendation always baffled me, as did the people who suggested starting with one of the underwater nations. Maybe they were talking about a good nation to learn the UI with, rather than strategy and tactics.

llamabeast · #2 March 22nd, 2008, 07:19 AM

Kamamura is having an unlucky day on the forum

(someone went crazy at him on a newbie game thread as well - not your fault Kamamura!)

capnq - people recommend starting with underwater nations?! Wow, that is insane. Way to put someone off.

Digress · #3 March 22nd, 2008, 08:06 AM

I am in the process of discovering all over again how much fun playing an underwater nation isn't.

MA Oceania - looks dire on paper, is diabolical in practice. Bleh ...

sector24 · #4 March 22nd, 2008, 09:07 AM

My first nation was EA Atlantis. You can't be attacked underwater so it's a very easy way to research all the spells and learn how to get your butt handed to you without being eliminated from the game.

Dedas · #5 March 22nd, 2008, 09:10 AM

Be nice to Kamamura. I just read the harsh cursing he was subjected to - not nice reading.

Twan · #6 March 22nd, 2008, 10:08 AM

ME Ulm can be good but need some very particular strategies, and more diplomacy or luck than other nations to survive in early game. As said in the recent other threads on the question, Ulm has already won several big games (and has been a serious competitor in more). And this even before the recent national boost.

Kamamura · #7 March 22nd, 2008, 10:09 AM

It is okay, I actually enjoy roleplaying a lot. I can understand there are problems with Ulm, if so many players dismiss it. I was successful with in in SP, but so far, I am just in my first MP game. Unfortunately, Ulm was already taken when I was signing :-)

As for that swearing, I don't mind a bit. That guy lost a lot of credit by bursting like this and I think he will have a hard time finding allies.

I like Dominions for the potential to discover new things, it's so massive a game... too bad the AI is not better, but it's probably impossible to achieve this with current HW and procedural languages.

theenemy · #8 March 22nd, 2008, 12:11 PM

I didn't find ulm newbie-friendly when I played with them the first time. Their troops are just too dang expensive and I lost quickly too some AI players.