LA Utgard guide

[thejeff]

I haven't played much with Utgard, but since some things overlap with Jotunheim, I'll make a couple of comments.

I don't think the woodsmen are worth a bless. Or even really using. Build your bless for the thugs, use the woodsmen if it works with them too.

The Norna suggest misfortune, but taking misfortune 3 means you lose out on 2 of the best heroes in the game, Tjatse and Angerboda. Tjatse's a beefed up Neifel Jarl who gives you access to Air and is SC class with some gear. Angerboda is even nicer for Utgard than Jotunheim since there's less overlap with her magic paths. (The wolflord is basically useless.)

[Twan]

To get heroes in reliable manneer you need positive luck, and it cost too much for this nation I think (then of course you may get one with misfortune 2, but it's really... luck).

I find woodsmen rather great with correct placement (you need some chaff to catch arrows, except that where is the problem ?). They have very small encumbrance meaning very few critical hits ; with good regen and increased protection they just stay alive forever, and berserk +2 give them a reasonable attack skill. Also Utgard has good astral mages to cast antimagic, it reduce a lot the weakness of small armies of giants against MR slay spells.

Anyway earth/nature bless is the best for thugs (when troops without magical weapons like woodsmen are more asking for fire to be able hit ethearal beings).

[DonCorazon]

Twan, I feel I should tip you (and eagerly await the rest of your guide). It is well-timed as I have been dealt Utgard in the coming mega game, and am battling a dual blessed (W/N) version of them in Alexandria MP game, but have never played them myself.

In Alexandria, they have done quite well with the dual blessed woodsmen as the W bless seems to mitigate their weakness vs. arrows as they get to the line so damn quick....and the arrows just piss them off (eg turn them into berserk mode)

[sansanjuan]

DonCorazon said:
Twan, I feel I should tip you (and eagerly await the rest of your guide). It is well-timed as I have been dealt Utgard in the coming mega game, and am battling a dual blessed (W/N) version of them in Alexandria MP game, but have never played them myself.

In Alexandria, they have done quite well with the dual blessed woodsmen as the W bless seems to mitigate their weakness vs. arrows as they get to the line so damn quick.

DC,
Good luck in the mega game as Utgard. I have done a few things right as Utgard and many things wrong. One that I regret is I opted for thug expansion at the expense of research a bit too much. I'll be happy to share all after the game.
-SSJ

[DonCorazon]

Thanks, SSJ. I was impressed enough with your performance to throw them on my list for the mega game, though they weren't my #1 choice . I look forward to your insights after Alexandria.

As for research, I am having the same problem in Figment playing Vanheim. Once you get too far behind, it is tough to recover. Keeping up in research as much as a nation will allow is now my priority in any game.

[sector24]

Good guide, I haven't played Utgard yet but I'm looking forward to it now.

[Amhazair]

I haven't played them either, but I'm absolutely in love with their seithkona's. They're absolutely amazing mages for only 90g. Those alone would make the nation worth playing.