OT: Soviet Re-Birth

[Randallw]

If I could I'd vote for McCain.

I find the Democratic arguments dangerously...umm, uncaring. I'm no expert but their arguments seem to come down to, and I may be wrong

"Precious American lives are being lost in Iraq. We should just leave them. It was not our role to overthrow Saddam. The lives of Iraqi civilians aren't our problem"

their supporters, such as overpayed actors who feeling guilty at their obscene paychecks think they need to earn it by campaigning against every perceived slight under the sun, decry President Bush for being too religious. I would distrust someone who was too secular. In my mind there is soemthing wrong with people that don't believe in something. Also as a teetotaller that would go so far as to say I loathe and despise alcohol and consider anyone who drinks it to be an alcoholic (Caffeine also) I admire a person who gave it up.

The Democratic argument also seems to lean towards, and yes I may be defensive, the position that it is time for a woman or an african american to be President, as if someone's gender or the colour of their skin makes any difference to their suitability to hold office. Reverse racism still involves racism. Barrack Hussein Obama is as much white as he is black anyway.

The African American democrats also criticise Condoleeza Rice as not being black. As she said she doesn't need people to tell her what she is, she knows what she is.

Most of my vehemence is focussed on the fact that they seem to portray an attitude of caring and being the righteous ones and yet their actions seem to be the exact opposite. Granetd however I'm not American, I may not be aware of the subtlties of American society.

I so have to avoid commenting when I'm depressed.

I should probably apologise. I'm very much a cynic and am generally disgusted by appeals to sentimentality and such things. To me the cry to heal the planet so your children don't suffer is a blatant threat to do things someone's way or your children will suffer. Pathetic.

[Azselendor]

I don't like any of them.

Obama in debates seems to end up flustered, Hiliary went from being likable to insurance industry puppet and McCain went from bucking the GOP establishment to Rah-Rah-Rah GOP Cheerleader.

I want...

Cthulhu

[Spectarofdeath]

This is the first time I've even considered voting. The next 4-8 years really are going to be a major turning point for the US and indeed the world. The thing I don't get is how Clinton had impeachment proceedings against him for lying about a affair while Good ol boy GW just says "our intel was wrong, don't look at me" and nothing happens. If you take the nation to war and it turns out that the reasons you did it weren't accurate you need to be held accountable. I guess like someone earlier said, the choices if Bush were impeached just get worse and worse. I'm not sure really which party I would be considered, I agree with the democrats that the wealthy (who have much more to give) should make a much larger contribution to the nation then the poor (who don't have much to give). OTOH I strongly believe in the 2nd amendment so that would put me with the republicans. IMO we NEED to get rid of the party system, or at least get more then 2 parties. Also the whole voting system (electoral college) deciding who wins is flawed. Whats the point in even counting the popular vote? If the two are in agreement ok, if someone wins the electoral and loses the popular, then something else needs to be done.

McCain wants us in Iraq for another 100 years. Obama seems to have good ideas, but in the debates I've seen never really says how he intends to accomplish them. Hillary has good ideas as well, but I can't help but wonder how much would be her and how much would be Bill. We don't need what Russia has now. Also as flawed as the argument is, are their only 2 families that can run the US? If I do vote it will probably be for a democrat.