Monkeys cry for changes?

llamabeast · #1 May 13th, 2008, 07:47 PM

I don't think Bandar Log or Patala are weak. I think most experienced players don't think they're weak.

If you are interested, search for posts by Lord_Bob, since _many_ of his posts were in his ridiculous and very long "monkeys CANNOT WIN" threads.

Sombre · #2 May 13th, 2008, 08:17 PM

MONKEE PD IS WAEK, AND YES CAN NEVAR WIN N TAHT IS Y U WILL LOOSE 2 ME LOL!!!!!!

MaxWilson · #3 May 13th, 2008, 08:30 PM

I've never played the monkey nations, but doesn't Astral imply Communion? Why aren't the monkeys throwing around Divine Bless? Do the priests not have Astral?

-Max

Baalz · #4 May 14th, 2008, 03:41 PM

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llamabeast said:
I don't think Bandar Log or Patala are weak. I think most experienced players don't think they're weak.

I agree. They take a little more subtlety to play than the average nation, but with elephants, strong astral and very strong non-unique summons they've got obvious good options for early, middle and late game. With a little bit of cleverness/luck they've got a bunch more options from awesome blood summons to recruitable/easily summonable national thug chasises.

Natpy · #5 May 14th, 2008, 03:53 PM

I agree with Baalz. Blood summons is a key.

atul · #6 May 14th, 2008, 03:57 PM

I'd hardly call it a key.

Additional asset after those astral magicks, elephants and summons is more like it.

Of course you could take the KB route, but it's hardly, erm, competitive.

Though, siege penalty hurts. But it just means some trading for siege bonus items will be necessary. I hope.

Natpy · #7 May 14th, 2008, 04:23 PM

Of course elephants and astral magic give a good start, but the problems begin already at the end of the second year. At this moment there are not ehough gems for good summons. But in case of the right development and pretender one is able to summon the first Dakini

atul · #8 May 14th, 2008, 04:56 PM

If you want to reach Blood6 within 20 first turns with what essentially is not a blood nation I would claim you're not exactly playing to your strengths.

But, having not played Bandars much apart from couple of duels, I can't comment with much authority. I'll have to get back to this after some time with next megagame where I'm playing them.

ano · #9 May 14th, 2008, 05:03 PM

It will be nice to hear your opinion in a month or two;-)

Wrana · #10 May 14th, 2008, 07:50 PM

What I don't understand is Brahmin being only holy 1. In other nations priests from a sacred caste get higher level. Slow mages hurt, but don't seem SO illogical..