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July 12th, 2008, 09:26 PM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
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Me, Sombre and probably whole IRC channel think that Ulm should be banned.
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Namind commander Adolf? Man, that offends not only Hebrews, but whole Eastern Europe. And progressive nation of Germany too!
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Boy, we should all be glad that the guy wasn't named "Michael" or "Martin". Or "John", "James", "Robert" etc.
I don't see a reason why the name "Adolf" would incite hysteria. It became largely unpopular, that's true, but I don't think that it causes offense or should be a taboo.
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July 12th, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
People with the given name Adolf or Adolph(e), who are unconnected-to the best of my limited knowledge-to the Nazi party.
copied pretty much directly from Wikipedia:
Gustavus Adolphus of Sweden, King of Sweden (1594 - 1632)
Adolf Albin, Romanian chess player (1848 - 1920)
Adolf Anderssen, German chess player (1818 - 1879)
Adolf Appellöf, Swedish zoologist (1857 - 1921)
Adolf Bastian, German anthropologist (1826 - 1905)
Adolf Born, Czech artist and filmmaker (born 1930)
Adolf Brand, German journalist (1874 - 1945)
Adolf von Baeyer, German chemist (1835 - 1917)
Adolf Busch, German violinist and composer (1891 - 1952)
Adolphus Busch, American businessman and co-founder of Anheuser-Busch (1839 - 1913)
Adolf Butenandt, German biochemist (1903 - 1995)
Adolf Cluss, German-American architect (1825 - 1905)
Adolphus Cusins, fictional character in "Major Barbara" by George Bernard Shaw
Adolf Daens, Belgian theologian (1839 - 1907)
Adolf Dassler, German entrepreneur and founder of Adidas (1900 - 1978)
Adolf Deucher, Swiss politician (1831 - 1912)
Adolf Dymsza, Polish comedy actor (1900 - 1975)
Adolf Ehrnrooth, Finnish general (1905 - 2004)
Adolf Etolin, Finnish explorer (1799 - 1876)
Adolf Eugen Fick, German inventor (1829 - 1901)
Adolph Fischer, German labor union activist (1858 – 1887)
Adolf Abraham Halevi Fraenkel, German-Israeli mathematician (1891 - 1965)
Adolf Galland, German fighter pilot (1912 - 1996) Although a German pilot in WW2, Galland was critical of his superiors and distanced himself from the Nazi party. Infact, he seems to have pissed them off, to a significant degree, and was almost tried for treason. He later served as technical advisor during the filming of Battle of Britain. I hardly consider him a Nazi.
Adolf Glassbrenner, German humourist (1810 - 1876)
Adolf Grunbaum, philosopher of science (born 1923)
Adolf von Harnack, German theologian (1851 - 1930)
Adolf Hempt, founder of the Pasteur Institute in Novi Sad, Serbia (1874 – 1943)
Adolf Bernhard Christoph Hilgenfeld, German theologian (1823 - 1907)
Adolf Hedin, Swedish newspaper publisher and politician (1834 - 1905)
Adolf von Henselt, German composer (1814 - 1889)
Adolf Hurwitz, German mathematician (1859 - 1919)
Adolf Kneser, German mathematician (1862 - 1930)
Adolph Kolping, German priest (1813 - 1865)
Adolf Lande, drug-control official
Adolf Lindenbaum, Polish mathematician (1904 - 1941)
Adolf Loos, Austrian architect (1870 - 1933)
Adolf Lu Hitler Marak, Indian politician (born 1948)
Adolphe Menjou, American actor and anti-Communist activist (1890 – 1963)
Adolf Meyer (psychiatrist), Swiss-American psychiatrist (1866 - 1950)
Adolf Meyer (architect), German architect (1881 - 1929)
Adolphus Warburton Moore(A. W. Moore) (1841 – 1887), British civil servant and mountaineer.
Adolf Erik Nordenskiöld, Finnish-Swedish explorer (1832 - 1901)
Adolf Oberländer, German characturist (1845 - 1923)
Adolph Ochs, American newspaper publisher (1858 - 1935)
Adolf Ogi, Swiss politician (born 1942)
Adolf Overweg, German scientist (1822 - 1852)
Adolf Pilar von Pilchau, Baltic German politician (1851 - 1925)
Adolf Reinach, German phenomenologist (1883 - 1917)
Adolph Rupp, American college basketball coach (1901 - 1977)
Adolphe Sax, Belgian musician and inventor of the Saxophone (1814 - 1894)
Adolf Friedrich von Schack, German poet (1815 - 1894)
Adolf Schärf, President of Austria (1890 - 1965)
Adolf Schlagintweit, German explorer (1829 - 1857)
Adolf Schmal, Austrian fencer (1872 - 1919)
Adolf Schreyer, German painter (1828 - 1899)
Adolf von Sonnenthal, Austrian actor (1834 - 1909)
Adolf Stieler, German cartographer (1775 - 1836)
Adolf Stoecker, German theologian (1835 - 1909)
Adolph Heinrich Joseph Sutro 24th mayor (& 2nd Jewish mayor) of San Francisco (1830 - 1898)
Adolphe Thiers French Prime Minister, President, and historian (1797 - 1877)
Adolf Tolkachev, Soviet engineer and CIA spy (1927 - 1986)
Adolf "Dado" Topić, Croatian singer (born 1949)
Adolf Wilbrandt, German novelist (1837 - 1911)
Adolf Otto Reinhold Windaus, German chemist (1876 - 1959)
Adolf Wölfli, Swiss artist (1864 - 1930)
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July 12th, 2008, 10:19 PM
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I don't see a reason why the name "Adolf" would incite hysteria. It became largely unpopular, that's true, but I don't think that it causes offense or should be a taboo.
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I dont know anyone named "Judas". Some names became *really* unpopular.
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July 12th, 2008, 10:31 PM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
You'll notice that there seems to be a hard limit on the DoB for names of prominent people given by HoneyBadger above, too. 
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July 12th, 2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
As MaxWilson says, this is a valid topic. Shrapnel and some mods are interested in people's views concerning this. We just aren't interested in people making it personal against one another. Most understand that when it comes to religion and politics, it's difficult, at times, to control tempers...even so, we ask that posters please do so.
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July 12th, 2008, 11:57 PM
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You'll notice that there seems to be a hard limit on the DoB for names of prominent people given by HoneyBadger above, too.
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Perhaps so Ich, but not long ago there was an black American athlete named Hitler. I alternate goggling and giggling over that guy.
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July 13th, 2008, 12:09 AM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
I've been amazed and pleased that there has never been a peep about this that i have seen. My guess is that the only people who play fantasy wargames are wargamers and fantasy fans and as such they have gotten over it long ago. Nearly all fantasy fiction draws on stereotypes and plays with supernatural concepts. All wargames per force involve playing at committing vile atrocities. Both escape reasonable moral censure because they are make believe. Beyond that, in an era where GTA is ok Dominions doesn't even rate a raised eyebrow IMO.
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July 13th, 2008, 04:02 AM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
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I don't see a reason why the name "Adolf" would incite hysteria. It became largely unpopular, that's true, but I don't think that it causes offense or should be a taboo.
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I dont know anyone named "Judas". Some names became *really* unpopular.
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Among Christians, certainly. On the other hand, it is also the name of Judas Maccabeus , one of the great warriors of Jewish History, and so, I suspect, far less unpopular among Jews.
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July 13th, 2008, 04:15 AM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
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I don't see a reason why the name "Adolf" would incite hysteria. It became largely unpopular, that's true, but I don't think that it causes offense or should be a taboo.
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I dont know anyone named "Judas". Some names became *really* unpopular.
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Among Christians, certainly. On the other hand, it is also the name of Judas Maccabeus , one of the great warriors of Jewish History, and so, I suspect, far less unpopular among Jews.
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Uh, that guy lived ~175 years before the name Judas became infamous.
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July 13th, 2008, 04:44 AM
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Re: Real-world sensitivities and game names
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Uh, that guy lived ~175 years before the name Judas became infamous.
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It took me a second, but I think he means that someone might name their kid after Judas Maccabeus--not that Judas Maccabeus himself was named after (/despite) Judas Iscariot.
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