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Derek,
A little quirk in my games : the AI fills all his "transport" designs with Colony modules...
I suppose this is due to the fact that the Cargo cap of a Colony module is superior to a 20kT cargo...
Simple solution IMHO is to make like in Proportions a much bigger Colony Module and a bigger Colony ship so that modules don't fit in transport hulls
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Bug is proven, all AI transport designs use Colony modules
I tried to make the colony modules 800Kt and the colony ships 1000Kt and ARGGGL ! Now the AI does not put ANY cargo in the Transport designs (ship should not even be allowed !). I checked this for several races so it's not an issue of a particular Ai design file ...
What's the heck ? The files correctly lists "cargo" as Must Have ability 1 , so ?
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Increasing the colony module size will not help.

Similar, albeit slightly different, problem exist in Proportions with Starliner module and cargo bays. PvK solved it by assigning bogus ability to Cargo bays, for example "Star - Unstable". Then he replaced "cargo" with "star - unstable" in transport designs in AI_design.txt file. Since only cargo bays have this ability, AI build ships with cargo bays !
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Oleg,
Thx for the reply, but I don't understand how the AI design work...
* My Colony ships have required "colony" ability and size is OK, and the AI don't design any !!
* And the transports have cargo requirement, why don't they put standard cargo bays, (now that colony components too big to fit), and instead design ILLEGAL ships ????
AI is mad !
I really want to avoid bogus ability use, it makes AI files even more cryptic ...
Perhaps the simplest solution is just to remove any cargo ability from colony module and making colony ships big enough to hold colony comp + 500 Kt cargo yo hold 1M pop.
Whaddaya think of this ?

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the transports have cargo requirement, why don't they put standard cargo bays, (now that colony components too big to fit), and instead design ILLEGAL ships ????
It's well known that the AI doesn't follow all of the design restrictions placed on human players.
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Please forgive me for the lack of updates. This Last week has been really hectic. Among other things, I am now a 2ndLt of Marines, as opposed to a Staff Sergeant. Not long from now, my life will get even busier. However, I do promise to keep up the work on Derek's Mod. Among the issues that currently need resolving are the image problems, the cargo problems, and the AI problems.

Well, this week seems like it won't be so busy, so I should be able to get some work done.

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Finally I have made cargoless colony comps, they seem to work OK as far as design is concerned ... but I don't know if AI manages to colonize in this case (ie you have to put a pop trans along the colonizer to have the colony produces anything). I'll have a look...
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