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				You could always buy more artillery. 
			
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 More arty means more weapons, not more effectiveness i think, but if you are the defender, have some ammo canisters, you can create an artillery wall    
			
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Same thing for me.  If you find the AP effect is not always as good as you want, simply buy more of them (artillery) and order to fire at the same target, sooner or later it will be destroyed.     
			
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 Yeah, but sooner or later the target may have already moved since we're talking about armor    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				More arty means more weapons, not more effectiveness i think, but if you are the defender, have some ammo canisters, you can create an artillery wall    
			
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 that's why you don't rely on artillery to destroy the enemy armor.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				is there anyway you could make a preference option to incress atty effect on armor only? 
			
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		One must not forget suppression is the name of the game with artillery. A tank commander and crew who have just have several batteries of 152mm drop in on them can end up as non-effective    as a kill would have made them.  They don't call it Steel Rain for nothing!!   
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				Then inf vs armor balance would also be tipped off 
			
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				is there anyway you could make a preference option to incress atty effect on armor only? 
			
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Same thing for me.  If you find the AP effect is not always as good as you want, simply buy more of them (artillery) and order to fire at the same target, sooner or later it will be destroyed.     
			
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 that's why you don't rely on artillery to destroy the enemy armor.     
			
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 yeah, i don't use arty that much, air strikes are more effective, especially in the "ATGM era"  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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				that's why you don't rely on artillery to destroy the enemy armor.     
			
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 Umm, I am from sheer desperation in a current PBEM.
 
I've got what seems like the entire 6th shock army rolling towards me (t-80's everywhere), and in a moment of madness I decided to field the entirety of the Royal Anglian regiment.
 
At the moment I'm watching this whacking great big column of armour roll towards me, while my 105 LG's are dropping shells on them. 
I'm also trying to bag some stationary transport helicopters with some mortar salvo's.
 
So any Advice on how to improve the art's chances of hitting would be useful.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Well if they're still coming towards you, it wasn't much of a success eh!  
If you want to disrupt advancing armor/mech with arty maybe you'should try a minelets+cluster munitions combination.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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