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				 New Patch? 
 Hey all,Been playing SE IV for about a week now and absolutely love it. Well, cept for the (lack of)A.I.
 I'm sure this question is somewhere else on the forum, but I haven't been able to find it. So, when is the next patch coming out? I'm at v1.67 right now. Thanks!
 
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				May 23rd, 2002, 01:55 AM
			
			
			
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				 Re: New Patch? 
 "Out of the kitchen! It'll be ready when it's ready."     
Seriously, v1.67 is the most current publicly available Version. If there are any newer Versions, only the beta testers know about them.
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				 Re: New Patch? 
 Beta is now at 1.71. Here is the history:
 Version 1.71:
 1.  Fixed   - Ships were unable to ram planets.
 2.  Fixed   - Drones were not smashing into planets.
 3.  Fixed   - Tactical Combat was not displaying correctly after a Ram.
 4.  Fixed   - Distance to planets has been reduced.
 5.  Added   - Added fields to Settings.txt to allow for a higher maximum
 value or resource amount.
 6.  Added   - Added a "Bases Can Join Fleets" field to Settings.txt.
 7.  Fixed   - AI would attempt to add units even when a planet was full.
 8.  Added   - Added "No Retrofit Adding Of Spaceyards" and
 "No Retrofit Adding Of Colony Module" so players can set
 whether the game will enforce these rules.
 9.  Changed - Fighters and Drones will have full movement when launched.
 10. Fixed   - In a Turn-Based Game, fighters can only be recovered if they
 have their full movement points (and are not in combat).
 
 Version 1.70:
 1.  Fixed   - Troops were unable to drop onto planets in combat.
 2.  Fixed   - Only ships and fighter Groups can join fleets.
 3.  Added   - Added Fighters, Satellites, and Drones Weapon Target Types in
 Components.txt.
 4.  Added   - Added "Two Per Vehicle" to "Ten Per Vehicle" to Restrictions
 in Components.txt.
 5.  Fixed   - Minefields will now accumulate damage against ships when
 hitting them.
 6.  Changed - If a mine will not do damage to a target because of its damage
 type, it will not strike the target. For example, if the mine
 only does engine damage, and the target does not have engines,
 then the mine will not strike the target.
 7.  Changed - Engine Damaging Weapons no longer skip shields.
 8.  Fixed   - Integer Overflow when viewing a planet report window for a planet
 that had been captured during combat.
 9.  Fixed   - Ai should be cloaking again in Simultaneous Games.
 
 Version 1.69:
 1.  Fixed   - The Massive Ship Mount stated that you needed a ship size of
 1100kT but it should actually be 1200kT.
 2.  Fixed   - Rare Integer Overflow in combat when a planet was attacked.
 3.  Fixed   - There was a way to bypass the Next Player Password dialog.
 4.  Changed - A ship cannot be retrofitted from a design which does not
 have a Spaceyard to one that does.
 5.  Changed - A ship cannot be retrofitted from a design which does not
 have a Colony Module to one that does.
 6.  Fixed   - Range Check Error when a luck trait tried to prevent a star
 from exploding.
 7.  Fixed   - Set Players To Computer Control window was setting all ministers
 off even for human players.
 
 Version 1.68:
 1.  Fixed   - Fighters no longer share their supplies with other ships.
 They will not pool their resources when in a fleet.
 2.  Fixed   - Newly launched fighters in a turn-based game will have no
 movement. The next turn after they are launched, they will
 receive full movement.
 3.  Fixed   - AI was not reacting with anger when a planet or system was
 destroyed.
 4.  Changed - Increased the number of formation positions from 30 to 100.
 5.  Fixed   - AI was still not always closing to optimum distance for
 launching seekers against planets.
 6.  Fixed   - Seeker hit on a planet would sometimes not show an explosion
 even if damage was done.
 7.  Fixed   - AI was not always moving on the first turn of Tactical Combat
 if it was the first player.
 8.  Fixed   - Planet hit points would not always accurately portray damaged
 units on the planet as well.
 
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	I wonder what this means. Do ships attacking planets now start nearer? Or is it defending bases/ sats that are nearer?Quote: 
	
		| 4. Fixed - Distance to planets has been reduced. |  
 
 
	There go those resupply exploits. Good riddance=-) Personally I'd like to see bases use the same  supply system as ships. Bases not above a resupply planet would need solar panels/ QR or regular visits from  resupply ship.Quote: 
	
		| 6. Added - Added a "Bases Can Join Fleets" field to Settings.txt. ...
 1. Fixed - Fighters no longer share their supplies with other ships.
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	This is a better fix for the fighter exploit than the previous solution.Quote: 
	
		| 9. Changed - Fighters and Drones will have full movement when launched. 
 10. Fixed - In a Turn-Based Game, fighters can only be recovered if they
 have their full movement points (and are not in combat).
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	These should make the modders happy=-)Quote: 
	
		| 3. Added - Added Fighters, Satellites, and Drones Weapon Target Types in Components.txt.
 4. Added - Added "Two Per Vehicle" to "Ten Per Vehicle" to Restrictions
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	Good - this is far more balanced.Quote: 
	
		| 7. Changed - Engine Damaging Weapons no longer skip shields. |  
 
 
	Hooray!Quote: 
	
		| 7. Fixed - AI was not always moving on the first turn of Tactical Combat if it was the first player. |  
 All in all, a very good patch so far. I'm really looking forward to this one=-)
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				 Re: New Patch? 
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				 Re: New Patch? 
 
	What? I've been using troops in virtually all my games, without trouble!Quote: 
	
		| 1. Fixed - Troops were unable to drop onto planets in combat. |  
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				 Re: New Patch? 
 
	What? I've been using troops in virtually all my games, without trouble!Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by steveh11: 
 quote:1. Fixed - Troops were unable to drop onto planets in combat.
 
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 Planet center was move to the center of a planet, not one of the corners. As troops only had a "range" of 1, they could never drop after one of the beta patches.
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				 Re: New Patch? 
 
	Now that is a good addition.  Should come in very handy!!Quote: 
	
		| 4. Added - Added "Two Per Vehicle" to "Ten Per Vehicle" to Restrictions in Components.txt.
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				 Re: New Patch? 
 
	IMO this is the best feature in the listed.Quote: 
	
		| 7. Changed - Engine Damaging Weapons no longer skip shields. |  This thing will realy balance the things.
 
 A suggestion:
 There are three engine-damage weapons: Ionic Dispenser, Ionic Missile and Massive Ionic Dispenser. The first one is fine because its easy to get, the second one is seeking so its fine too, but there is the Massive Ionic Dispenser. I suggest that this weapon will have "skips shields" innit.
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				 Re: New Patch? 
 "7. Fixed - AI would attempt to add units even when a planet was full."
 That's a very important one IMO.
 
 "7. Changed - Engine Damaging Weapons no longer skip shields."
 
 Just when I balanced these weapons in my mod and reduced their effect. Now I have to start again!
 
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