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January 1st, 2009, 04:39 PM
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Re: Armour vs. civilian
Take it as the civilians climbed on your tank, pulled the crewmembers out from the open hatches and beat them to death with the stones. Just because the icon for a destroyed unit always shows a vehicle on fire, it doesn't mean that the vehicle blows up and catches on fire every time it's destroyed. It's just another abstraction. The MBT is just as knocked out in game terms, regardless of what kills the crew.
So yeah it is realistic that the tank, which you parked in the middle of the street with hatches open with a crew instructed not to fire at the enemy, to get knocked out in this fashion.
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January 1st, 2009, 05:59 PM
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Re: Armour vs. civilian
Try the same with Infantry Support, The IDF has it's urban warfare stuff together and a lone or even 3 MBT's without Infantry Support doesn't sound like it would happen. IMHO
Bob out 
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January 1st, 2009, 06:01 PM
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Re: Armour vs. civilian
Well, that’s a thought since the first unit was ready, not buttoned up or anything.
But what about my two other MBTs that was buttoned up, all hatches closed?
One of them was destroyed, the other was immobile.
The Merkava Mk 4 is an awesome weapon, built special for urban warfare, so it’s still a thought, isn’t it?
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January 1st, 2009, 06:06 PM
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Re: Armour vs. civilian
Sorry Bob, you had already replied while I was writing my reply, so I didn’t see it before posting.
Of course you don’t drive around in a urban environment without infantry support, that is asking for trouble.
But the question still remains, how can you knock out a buttoned up MBT like the Merkava, or which MBT you would choose by throwing rocks?
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January 1st, 2009, 06:27 PM
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Re: Armour vs. civilian
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Originally Posted by m113apc
Sorry Bob, you had already replied while I was writing my reply, so I didn’t see it before posting.
Of course you don’t drive around in a urban environment without infantry support, that is asking for trouble.
But the question still remains, how can you knock out a buttoned up MBT like the Merkava, or which MBT you would choose by throwing rocks?
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Any infantry can destroy tanks by close assaulting them.
Those without A/T weapons may well run away in tank panic or become severely suppressed if they fail.
"Rocks" are not rocks - they are a class 1 infantry weapon with range 1 (or 2?). The game has no "rock" or "spear" or "bow" weapon classes. So they ripped open a hatch and sprayed the insides of the tank crew compartment with a class 1 HE weapon.
Before WW2, some Abyssinian tribesmen dealt with an Italian tankette by swarming it and then manually flipping it onto its back. Then they lit a fire under it.
Cheers
Andy
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January 1st, 2009, 11:21 PM
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Re: Armour vs. civilian
Boils Down to where there is a will there is a way!
Bob out 
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January 2nd, 2009, 03:51 PM
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Re: Armour vs. civilian
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Originally Posted by Koh
Take it as the civilians climbed on your tank, pulled the crewmembers out from the open hatches and beat them to death with the stones. Just because the icon for a destroyed unit always shows a vehicle on fire, it doesn't mean that the vehicle blows up and catches on fire every time it's destroyed. It's just another abstraction. The MBT is just as knocked out in game terms, regardless of what kills the crew.
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Well,if you have managed to open the hatches and lynch the crew, setting it on fire and maybe blowing it up is the easy part.
Scrounge a can of gasoline or whatever, pour it inside and light it up. The firefighting system cannot be that good.
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