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January 6th, 2009, 03:42 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
Excellent scenario, it took me a minute to sort things out! I have passed it on to one of my friends who has WinMBT in Israel.
Here is an excellent article about the IDF in Gaza which might help in fine-tuning your scenario:
http://yaacovlozowick.blogspot.com/2...-thinking.html
Here is a quote that might help:
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I'm no more informed than the rest of you, but allow me to suggest what may be happening (this is pure conjecture). As described above, at this stage of attrition the Hamas men are almost on their own, perhaps in small groups. They're tired and frightened, or at least, tired and very tense. They've been under fire for ten days, most of which were filled with frustrated anticipation: even assuming they've been raring for a fight the whole time, it has been slow in coming and doesn't appear all that imminent even now. Their leaders are out of sight, their closer commanders may also be gone. They realize that the tunnel they intended to use to resupply has been bombed, nor are many reinforcements likely to come. All this would still be alright if only the IDF infantry would walk into their carefully prepared traps. But the IDF isn't doing that. Instead, it's inching forward. Its infantry seems to have excellent intelligence about each building; instead of racing forward like an elephant into a booby-mined trap, it fights for a building, kills some of the defenders but captures others, interrogates them about the other buildings on the street and only then moves forward to the next one.
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Semper Fi, Carry On
Go Israel!
(My bad-had the wrong link to the blog post..corrected now.)
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January 6th, 2009, 05:18 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
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Semper Fi, Carry On
Go Israel!
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Indeed ! If I have to listen to one more hypocritical , Bleeding Heart Liberal " World leader " moaning about the Israeli's I'm going to puke.  Odd how very quiet they were all these months as Hamas launched hundreds of rockets into Israel.
I don't image the British would be "patient" if the rockets were hitting London or the French if they were hitting Paris.
It seems to certain members of the Chattering Classes only Israel needs to be "Patient" and "Show restraint"
Don
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January 6th, 2009, 09:09 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
Version 3:
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QASSAM :-P
Don's corrected briefing file included.
Israeli troop costs per squad are now 100, not 47; don't lose these guys.
Israeli F-16Is now carry 2 x 500 lb LGBs and 2 x 1,000 lb LGBs. Pick your choice of BOOM!
Israelis lose their UAV; I felt it revealed too much of enemy positions early on, considering this is a very small map.
Israeli Commander now has access to 2 x 155mm tubes and one FO squad.
Israeli APCs are now Azcharits, not Classicals; apparently a lot of Azcharits are in the Golani Brigade (whcih is attacking into the Strip now), and in general in the west bank and gaza areas...
Israeli APCs are now cross-attached to the Paratroop company hq.
The HAMASholes have been beefed up, and the Israelis have all their tech toys back.
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January 9th, 2009, 05:47 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard
Version 3:
Changes:
QASSAM :-P
Don's corrected briefing file included.
Israeli troop costs per squad are now 100, not 47; don't lose these guys.
Israeli F-16Is now carry 2 x 500 lb LGBs and 2 x 1,000 lb LGBs. Pick your choice of BOOM!
Israelis lose their UAV; I felt it revealed too much of enemy positions early on, considering this is a very small map.
Israeli Commander now has access to 2 x 155mm tubes and one FO squad.
Israeli APCs are now Azcharits, not Classicals; apparently a lot of Azcharits are in the Golani Brigade (whcih is attacking into the Strip now), and in general in the west bank and gaza areas...
Israeli APCs are now cross-attached to the Paratroop company hq.
The HAMASholes have been beefed up, and the Israelis have all their tech toys back.
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Ryan, I haven't had a chance to play this yet we're up to our ears in patch work ATM but somewhere on the forum someone mentioned that the Merkava Mk 4 are being held back ATM and it's the earlier Merkavas like the Baz that are being used now.
Don
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January 9th, 2009, 11:19 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
Here's a very good article about the tanks in Gaza:
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Tank...field_999.html
I liked the scenario very much and look foreward to more of the same.
Semper Fi, Carry On
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January 10th, 2009, 05:58 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
Well done with the scenario. I think perhaps Hamas stil needs more forces. I got a decisive victory with 15 men lost. 194 Hammas morons bought it though, so i think its OK. A good noumber of those thanks to forgetting to call-off an artillery strike. One of My Mk4s was dead in the center of the bombardment...It survived but somehow lost 3 men(?)One of my Achzarit APCs got immobilized on a mine(Yes, I drove the Aczarit through a building  ) Those nests were hard to get. Very fun scenario.
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January 11th, 2009, 12:45 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
Version Four will be coming, I just noticed a throwaway line in a news report about that UNRWA school attack:
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The troops had intended to launch a smart missile to take out the Palestinian launch team but a technical malfunction made this impossible, according to the probe. The commanders of the force instead decided to fire on the Qassam team with mortar shells equipped with a Global Positioning System for accurate fire.
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So apparently the Israelis now have GPS guided artillery; most likely IMI has rushed pre-production prototypes of that 120mm GPS mortar bomb, and 155mm Shell that were "finishing development" in 2009 to the troops.
So expect a FO bump to take advantage of this ability, as well as a downgrade of the Merks to Merk 3s.
Also guys, by what turn are you well into fighting in the settlement?
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January 11th, 2009, 10:18 PM
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Re: Operation CAST LEAD
Here is the second part of that 2 part article about tank combat in Gaza.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Tank...t_Two_999.html
I thought that the scenario designer could make use of the articles. Maybe i should make an entirely new thread with these articles.
Semper Fi, Carry On
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