Mod Warhammer "Chaos Undivided" race

rdonj · #1 January 8th, 2009, 04:07 PM

Hey, glad to see you come back. I'm certainly happy with the changes you made, I almost would have gone farther with the flails but they're much better off now than before. The change to the undead was really big, nurgle warriors are much more useful now. Lords of khorne really did need to lose that fear aura, even though that's going to hurt them a lot. They were just a little too much though being powerful out of the box thugs.

The problem the chariots have is that they're not ambidextrous. They need a fairly hefty bonus to offest the weapon length penalty from the whip and halberd. The trample attack I'm pretty sure doesn't care about your attack skill, the size of the trampling unit. So that should be unaffected by any change you make.

I don't honestly know what to do with the warriors of Tzeentch either. They do have increased magic resistance so there is at least some difference. Maybe the chosen could have luck cursing weapons....

I am 99% positive it's impossible to have randomly heretical units. The only way I can think of that you could manage it is with the crossbreeding spell. Obviously that won't work for a recruitable commander.

Panpiper · #2 January 8th, 2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by llamabeast

You can modify the first post in any thread, so you should use that one for the changelog.

That should have been obvious to me, eh? Thank you Llamabeast.

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Originally Posted by rdonj

I almost would have gone farther with the flails but they're much better off now than before. The change to the undead was really big

I don't honestly know what to do with the warriors of Tzeentch either. They do have increased magic resistance so there is at least some difference. Maybe the chosen could have luck cursing weapons...

Given that I dropped the encumbrance for the Nurgle units to zero, I didn't want to give too big a boost to their primary weapon. If people find they are still too weak, I'll consider bumping it again.

Your suggestion about Tzeentch suggested a good idea. I have given the chosen of Tzeentch halberd, a 'magic' effect (no other boost). Of the chosen (let alone the regular warriors), they alone have a magic weapon. This may not be enough, but with that and their naturally higher magic resistance, they are 'special'.

I gave full ambidexterity to the Chaos Warrior Chariot (each of the two weapons is wielded by a separate warrior). That should have been obvious to me the first time I wrote the mod, but I missed it and never looked back.

rdonj · #3 January 9th, 2009, 02:05 AM

Magic halberds for the chosen does sound pretty nifty. They're still a little bit niche but should be pretty useful on astral nations.

Panpiper · #4 January 10th, 2009, 12:03 AM

I encountered several weird bugs while attempting to fix the spear problem. I have not gotten to the bottom of what was causing the bugs where one hand weapons would seem to be functioning as two handed. I do however have a workaround where by using a number code rather than the name string I am able to specify a one handed spear which does do the trick. The numbered spear however has higher stats which required dropping the natural stats of the Lord of Slaanesh, not what I had originally wanted to do. This disadvantages a custom equipped lord, but I guess they're likely still tough enough once fully kitted.

rdonj · #5 January 10th, 2009, 03:02 AM

The lords of slaanesh are more attractive for their enslavement abilities anyway. If you get lucky and enslave away an enemy thug or two you're causing a lot of damage to your enemy.

Panpiper · #6 January 10th, 2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rdonj

The lords of slaanesh are more attractive for their enslavement abilities anyway. If you get lucky and enslave away an enemy thug or two you're causing a lot of damage to your enemy.

True, that is the real strength of those units. What I don't want however is for them to be able to do that with impunity, to do it 'solo'. If a player is forced to use several in order to take out independents that is fine. For more worthy opponents, a screen to take the brunt of an attack aught also be necessary.

Panpiper · #7 May 13th, 2009, 04:51 PM

Bumping due to an update. This latest version 0.55, has been sitting on my drive for a few months. I really should have uploaded it back then.

Sorry for the slow progress. It is quite playable as it is now, just with a few of the summonable demons still using existing graphics as opposed to original graphics.