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Old January 9th, 2009, 09:52 PM
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Well Charles you are fixed in your ways & you said yourself you do not play challenging games. "Against the Poles I always get decisive victories & consider 5 tanks a loss"

Nuff said & may you continue to have many more as thats what floats your boat.
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Well Charles you are fixed in your ways & you said yourself you do not play challenging games. "Against the Poles I always get decisive victories & consider 5 tanks a loss"

Nuff said & may you continue to have many more as thats what floats your boat.
Boy, you sure do keep getting me wrong. Now you may not consider losing 5 tanks something of a losing effort, but I was talking about the Poles afterall. Adjustment to what you expect from a battle, or didn't you understand that? Take those same 5 tank losses, that's a great victory when going against a superior foe ('41 USSR for example), but when facing a much weaker opponent, oh say Poland, 5 tank losses I often find as just plain unacceptable. The same loses against different enemies can have extremely different reactions on the player; not just me. The score may be the same in the end, but losses to inferior foes hurt more keenly, just like the Lions shouldn't be getting 500 total yards against the Steelers. It's often an indication of sloppy play to have the same losses to an inferior enemy as to a stronger enemy.

Of course there is the possibility that somehow we play beyond our normal abilities against stronger opponents, but when one sees a pattern over time, and has fought Poland so much it has made his eyes bleed, then yeah, he ought to know what are acceptable losses for his playing style and what are not. If you even think for a minute that Poland is tough, wait till you see the USSR. The USSR may rout more easily than Poland (not sure) but she sure has much better units.
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Keep in mind that the game level sets a lot of stuff. During the war, the Germans beat the Poles with superior tactics, better training and organization. The game on the other hand, balances a lot of things. If you have a more experienced force, the AI gets more points to spend. It is possible to have Polish aircraft show up that was rare during the war. The AI artillery seems to have a super natural ability to drop on units that should otherwise be hidden. The Polish guns in 1939 were very capable of defeating German tanks of the day. Losing five tanks is quite capable of happening.

Now that my core has Panthers and Tigers, like yours, I don't lose tanks as much, but I still lose them. There is nothing careless about having a 155mm round or a 500lbs bomb drop on a turret. In battle, units are destroyed. Losing a Tiger with 100 kills hurts much more than losing a mark IIb with none, but it's just something that happens. When it does, you continue the mission.
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Old January 10th, 2009, 02:09 AM
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Here is a link to my AAR versus the Poles & ongoing battles vs the French
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41834

It lists my core as entered France has ammo as well not listed & had no HTs for use in Poland. Do not buy transport with support.

AI recieves 130% of my forces repair is -10% (might be 120%)
If I remember correctly got a marginal victory & 2 decisive vs Poles

Note things you probably will not do.
Half my arty is short ranged stuff that I have to move to keep up with the advance as did not get the luxury of having all nice gear.
HTs coming on line slowly will not be getting more for a while
No 88s allowed till later, might get 2 with support if defending & map looks bad.
So I am trying to fight French armour with infantry because tanks dont cut the mustard.

But what did you do if the AI got your 88s?
Can you still take these out & the Matildas & KV's I still face if you lose them?

The river crossing is an exeption as have additional ground well air forces in FJs, otherwise engineers for mines but now have 2 platoons in core so dont need.
Possibly the odd bunker & ATG on defence as used for that purpose but no sacrificial lambs.
River crosssing also a rare instance where I used most of my support points as they are a hard operation to pull off.

I think the diffrence between us is our view of what represents a challenge.
You are replaying the same format you have already won at rather than trying the next level.
I actualy state the first battles were not much of a problem but I am now working hard to achieve victory which in my book is a good thing.
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