Don't Feel Sorry For The AI

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Charles22

What did the AI pick? 60 75mm guns, only four of which were onboard. There was some other artillery but I didn't bother counting them.

The guns are what mostly gets me here, as having that many guns going off gets to be a real nuisance irrespective of what damage it may cause, but this battle also rather epitomized how lopsided things can often get in favor of the AI. In most situations at this close range (7 max) my AFV's would very often not hit on the first shot (probably 80% misses), while the Polish ones did, often destroying, with something close to a 50% ratio. For a couple of times I noticed the percentage on one of my tanks,

EVERY year the AI hands a player a hard time it's "suggested" the AI has an advantage. It's a regular event right along with us saying it doesn't get one so I won't bother saying it again

So, the AI picked 60 guns. Is there a save game ?? We always ask so is there one ? Without a save game so we can see what the AI picked and where on the pick list it was chosen we couldn't possibly guess what may or may not have gone on or if perhaps there is a problem with the way the pick is coded. The picklist for the AI is set up so there are always random variables otherwise it would be the same thing over and over and over and over and sometimes, as "luck" would have it, there may be the computer equivalent of rolling snake-eyes three or four times in a row and the little bits of code in the picklist that says...... "Buy this or that or in 10 chances out of 99 buy this AND that just to keep people on their toes" kicks in and then seemingly odd things happen


A save game of that 60 gun game would be nice to see


Don

[Mobryan]

Originally Posted by DRG

"Buy this or that or in 10 chances out of 99 buy this AND that just to keep people on their toes" kicks in and then seemingly odd things happen

Which is one of the really neat things about this game, it's nearly as unpredictable as real life is, and I'm glad for it.



Matt

[Imp]

Ramm
Not everyone plays this game for historical accuracy/battle simulation and that is perfectly OK in my opinion. Some people play to win with no holds barred including being gamey. Imp, you have progressed to the point you are not interested solely in winning but rather in having a good time while by being historical, give others a chance to reach your level and you will be amazed how their viewpoint changes.

What I was trying to say is you guys are getting bogged down in the fine details probably spending ages trying to pick the best force you can. Why not pick what you fancy playing with historical or not & yes I do normally go roughly historical because its an all threats force though just been playing with SAS & dune buggies for a laugh.
Yes a totaly duff force purchase will cause problems but so long as your armour can destroy his you should be okay. Improving your tactics by playing the game will pay far more dividends than spending time deciding whether to buy regular troops or marines etc & not buying the same force all the time will help further.

[Charles22]

Originally Posted by DRG

EVERY year the AI hands a player a hard time it's "suggested" the AI has an advantage. It's a regular event right along with us saying it doesn't get one so I won't bother saying it again

So, the AI picked 60 guns. Is there a save game ?? We always ask so is there one ? Without a save game so we can see what the AI picked and where on the pick list it was chosen we couldn't possibly guess what may or may not have gone on or if perhaps there is a problem with the way the pick is coded. The picklist for the AI is set up so there are always random variables otherwise it would be the same thing over and over and over and over and sometimes, as "luck" would have it, there may be the computer equivalent of rolling snake-eyes three or four times in a row and the little bits of code in the picklist that says...... "Buy this or that or in 10 chances out of 99 buy this AND that just to keep people on their toes" kicks in and then seemingly odd things happen


A save game of that 60 gun game would be nice to see


Don

Despite what it may had sounded like, as I suppose I didn't express myself as clearly as I ought to had done, I wasn't saying the game was defective, so why would I save the game and post it? It was more an observation than anything and an attempt to convince people that the AI can indeed seemingly rip you off. IOW, don't have mercy on it, because it 'can' rip you off, even if it's just a matter of getting boatloads of random odds against you; which is perhaps unlike most battles.

Despite how much time has passed since when I posted the thread, well yes, I do still have a save towards the end of the game. Only problem is I can't find it on my computer (but can in the game). If you really want to see it, telling me how to translate what I see on the 'load game list' screen would be helpful so I can find the file on the computer. I have looked for every single bit of data on my entire computer that shows on that screen, and nothing comes of these searches.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Charles22

If you really want to see it, telling me how to translate what I see on the 'load game list' screen would be helpful so I can find the file on the computer. I have looked for every single bit of data on my entire computer that shows on that screen, and nothing comes of these searches.

OK, Let's assume it shows you have this save game in save slot 11

Go to the

WinsSPWW2\Saved Games

folder and look for ..........

SpSv011.cmt
SpSv011.dat

Zip them up and post them

Don

[Charles22]

Originally Posted by DRG

OK, Let's assume it shows you have this save game in save slot 11

Go to the

WinsSPWW2\Saved Games

folder and look for ..........

SpSv011.cmt
SpSv011.dat

Zip them up and post them

Don

Still not there. For some reason I cannot manage a screenshot either. I thought it was alt-Pr Sc (Vista) but I have nothing to paste into anything should it had gone to the clipboard. I can, however, tell you the path the saved games folder took and what is in it:

OS (C: )/program files/shrapnel games/the camo workshop/winsppw2/saved games

It has only two files, one called 1-info and another called spsv000.cmt. I did a search on spsv* from the shrapnel folder after I found that out and the one I just listed is the only one, yet all the saves are still in the game and work.

[Double_Deuce]

Originally Posted by Charles22

Still not there. For some reason I cannot manage a screenshot either. I thought it was alt-Pr Sc (Vista) but I have nothing to paste into anything should it had gone to the clipboard. I can, however, tell you the path the saved games folder took and what is in it:

OS (C: )/program files/shrapnel games/the camo workshop/winsppw2/saved games

It has only two files, one called 1-info and another called spsv000.cmt. I did a search on spsv* from the shrapnel folder after I found that out and the one I just listed is the only one, yet all the saves are still in the game and work.

Try looking for them in the following directory (it may not be exactly accurate as I do not know how your computer is set up):

C:\Users\yourcomputername\AppData\Local\VirtualSto re\program files\shrapnel games\the camo workshop\winsppw2\saved games

You may have to search the VirtualStore Folder and then drill down in there.

[Charles22]

Originally Posted by Double_Deuce

Try looking for them in the following directory (it may not be exactly accurate as I do not know how your computer is set up):

C:\Users\yourcomputername\AppData\Local\VirtualSto re\program files\shrapnel games\the camo workshop\winsppw2\saved games

You may have to search the VirtualStore Folder and then drill down in there.

Phew. Thanks, that did it.

[Charles22]

Here's the file.SpSv001.zip

SpSv001 (2).zip