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Old May 17th, 2009, 03:37 AM
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The Lawgiver is certainly an improvement, but I still don't see how his base qualities, aside from Astral, are all that helpful. MA Mictlan's mainstay, the Eagle Warrior, has too few HP to benefit from an N bless, and because of it's tactical flying, doesn't need an A blessing to avoid missile-fire. And I'd think you'd still need either F9 or D9 for an offensive punch, and that starts to get expensive on the Lawgiver platform.

Speaking of offensive punch, which do folks prefer for MA Mictlan, fire or death? I think there was a thread a while back discussing the relative merits of both, but what are people's thoughts on that regarding Mictlan specifically?

IMO, with death over fire, you give up a good amount of early game firepower, but death seems like it will still be relevant later on, when fire begins to be neutralized by high level magic and/or forged items. Plus with all your sacred mage-priests, you'll be causing a lot more afflictions.

Does anyone know if the death blessing affliction chance works with the Jaguar Toad's poison spit, or the Monster Toad's poison aura? And did anyone satisfactorily determine if it works with Seeking Arrow (there were tests, but I don't know if any were done against large HP targets)?
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As D9 bless is MR damage (and does not come with attack bonus), its effect is even more negligible later on. So for late game a minor FB bless is better (and cheaper).
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Wow. An excellent guide!

And the consequent discussion was also marvelous. Lot's of great ideas.

I think all are viable but personally I liked MB's build the most.
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And did anyone satisfactorily determine if it works with Seeking Arrow (there were tests, but I don't know if any were done against large HP targets)?
I was the one who did the Seeking Arrows tests, and re-doing the Death Bless part of it has been on my to-do list for a few weeks now. Shockingly, my recent Dominions time has had to be spent actually playing the game instead of tesing the mechanics

A disgraceful turn of events for sure
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I was the one who did the Seeking Arrows tests, and re-doing the Death Bless part of it has been on my to-do list for a few weeks now. Shockingly, my recent Dominions time has had to be spent actually playing the game instead of tesing the mechanics

A disgraceful turn of events for sure
LOL, no worries, gives us something to look forward to

As far as a death vs fire bless goes, I assumed it would be fire that suffered more in the late game, as with spells like Army of Gold/Warriors of Muspelheim, the threat from fire can be completely neutered, but the threat from death can only be mitigated with anti-magic spells and items - with open ended die rolls, the threat can never be completely eliminated.
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