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May 18th, 2009, 08:26 AM
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Re: Dominions 3 Ladder
One thing you might want to take a look at, is (unfortunately) going to require a bit more math involved. The problem is, some players are MUCH more active than others. For most of the last year, I averaged 8+ games going consecutively. Recently I was in -13- games, and now I don't have the time or focus to play competitively at all, so I've almost dropped them all. Meanwhile, I've known people who regularly play 4-5, and a number of vets whose hard limit is 2 at a time.
If 1 player joins every single ladder match that's up, they'll simply dominate the page, even if they lose every time.
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May 18th, 2009, 08:46 AM
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Re: Dominions 3 Ladder
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison
If 1 player joins every single ladder match that's up, they'll simply dominate the page, even if they lose every time.
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No, if you lose games, you lose points - one for every lower-ranked person that beats you.
Hyperactive players probably do have an advantage since there's a nett positive accumulation of points, but only if they are at least moderately successful.
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May 18th, 2009, 09:16 AM
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Re: Dominions 3 Ladder
Sorry for the sloppy typing, I broke two fingers playing Rugby this week end and its a little rough typing... 
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May 18th, 2009, 10:03 AM
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Re: Dominions 3 Ladder
In the many years of Dom2 and Dom3 this subject has come up many times with extensive conversation. The impacts of maps, scales, mods, ranking methods, neutral judgments, etc.
You might want to do a search and check out some of them.
Gandalf Parker
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May 18th, 2009, 11:21 AM
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Re: Dominions 3 Ladder
For information, on the French cyberstratege site, there's such a thing: http://www.cyberstratege.com/forum/v...php?f=7&t=2134 for those who read French and wouldn't know that site.
They limited themselves to 4 player games on a single map, with random nations and random era. I didn't check the scoring system because I can't follow with the rhythm of the games (daily) during week-ends. Anyway the scores are here: http://www.cyberstratege.com/forum/v...php?f=7&t=2211 . It's interesting to notice that after 5 months, 7 games were completed, and all players completed at most 2 matches.
Therefore, I think a system where your ranking depends on your opponents would never work (unless everyone plays for a century or more, or the ladder games are all blitz games).
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