Cripple Fight! - And the Lame shall inherit the earth!

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by Frozen Lama

geez, Ermor has really been fighting the good fight this game. under attack from multiple enemys pretty much the whole game, and still winning.

Congrats Calahan!

oh and Abysia is still looking to buy Fire gems from people

Cheers Frozen Lama.

Was touch and go for a while, but I've definitely done a full bounce off the ropes now, and currently charging pell-mell towards the centre of the ring

Although one of my opponents being unable to accept losing, and just quitting to the AI played some part in it.

[Jazzepi]

Originally Posted by Calahan

Cheers Frozen Lama.

Was touch and go for a while, but I've definitely done a full bounce off the ropes now, and currently charging pell-mell towards the centre of the ring

Although one of my opponents being unable to accept losing, and just quitting to the AI played some part in it.

Actually, I quit because the whole process of playing LA Atlantis was extremely frustrating, instead of being fun which is why I play this game. While I thought it might have been interesting to play an "underdog" nation, Atlantis is just absolute garbage. They have awfully expensive recruitables, and I actually can't think of a nation with worse mages (woo-hoo, W1D1H1 in all but capital). I also went a non-bless route, which only made it worse.

But really, don't speak when you don't know what you're talking about. I generally stick around, even when being run over roughshod (go look at first or third mega game), but in this case submitting turns would have just been an exercise in frustration. At some point, I really don't care if it makes the game harder for other people (and easier for some), I'm not going to drag myself through the mud to do exactly what the AI would do; lose.

Jazzepi

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by Jazzepi

But really, don't speak when you don't know what you're talking about. I generally stick around, even when being run over roughshod (go look at first or third mega game), but in this case submitting turns would have just been an exercise in frustration. At some point, I really don't care if it makes the game harder for other people (and easier for some), I'm not going to drag myself through the mud to do exactly what the AI would do; lose.

Jazzepi

Maybe you are right, maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about. It's happened before. It can happen again. But all I saw in this game is someone who lost a big fight, and then quit immediately after it. And I might add, without even so much as a polite message informing the other players that you were doing so. You say LA Atlantis is no fun, but you chose to play them, and many other players really enjoy playing them (Baalz for one I believe). So maybe they are not fun for you because you find it hard to win with them.

I also notice you recently went AI in the 'Beyond' game, and upon checking the llamascores, your nation of C'tis (which the game status page says you were playing in that game) had a huge load of provinces and gem income at the time. Still does in fact, even with the AI in charge.

'Beyond' thread - http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42374
'Beyond' llamascores - http://www.llamaserver.net/showScores.cgi?game=Beyond

Of course I do not know the whole story of the 'Beyond' game, but to my way of thinking, quitting in such a position (high province/forts/gems) is completely unthinkable, and destroys the balance of the game for the other players. And to be honest I dislike playing in games with any players who think it is acceptable to destroy the balance of the game by suddenly quitting, because I view that as a very selfish act which strongly diminishes that games enjoyment for others. That of course is just my opinion.

But I know for certain I would have struggled far more in this game, and probably have already lost, if LA Atlantis had been human controlled. So this has subsequently hurt my other two enemies Gath+Bogarus. So that is myself, 'Alpine Joe' and 'viccio' all affected because you quit to the AI, plus all the other fine 'Cripple Fight' players of course who now have an alive EA Ermor in the game when they should have had a dead EA Ermor.

To me these two incidents are not the actions of someone who claims to stick around and fight until the bitter end. If I am wrong then I apologise unreservedly, but I can only go by what I see, and what I see is someone who has quit two games because they were in the very early stages of losing a war. Although in the 'Cripple Fight' case you weren't even losing the war, you just lost a big fight.

We all play this game for fun, but some people only consider something fun if they are winning or succeeding.