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September 21st, 2009, 05:51 PM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
I found another nation that has been upgrading its armed forces to new standards in 2009 scenarios. Syria has updated its tanks.
T-55/55MV (2150) Modernization Level Of T-64BM Bulat
T-62M/K (1000) Modernization Level Of T-72BM
T-72/72M (1600) Modernization Level Of T-90S
T-80UK (320)
This can be verified at this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Army
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September 21st, 2009, 06:35 PM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
A link for the T-64 Bulat Main Battle Tank
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t64bm_bulat.htm
T-72B(M) T-72B obr.1989g - T-72B equipped with advanced Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armour, composite armour in sides of turret as well. Often called T-72BM or T-72B(M) but this is not correct. NATO code: SMT M1990. This may very well fall under T-72BM "Rogatka" programme hard to tell when it comes to T-72s they come in so many different shapes and colours. Why downgrade their fleet of T72AV to standard BM?
An old link for T-72BM standard
http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/
A link for the T-90S Main Battle Tank
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t90/
A link with for the T-80UK Command Tank
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/t80/
I were to slow 30M had expired to update the message.
Anyway additional information 
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September 22nd, 2009, 04:31 AM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
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If you have any issues with the OOB data, then please post it in the TO&E forum. After firstly reading the error reporting sticky post in there, of course.
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September 23rd, 2009, 05:56 AM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
Top on my wishlist would be a Singaporean OOB. Indonesia and Malaysia get one, I don't see why we shouldn't.
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September 25th, 2009, 11:02 AM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
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Originally Posted by shilka77
I found another nation that has been upgrading its armed forces to new standards in 2009 scenarios. Syria has updated its tanks.
T-55/55MV (2150) Modernization Level Of T-64BM Bulat
T-62M/K (1000) Modernization Level Of T-72BM
T-72/72M (1600) Modernization Level Of T-90S
T-80UK (320)
This can be verified at this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Army
Hope it helps
shilka77
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Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.
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September 29th, 2009, 01:22 AM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
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Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.
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Yep, making T-72M1 with TURMS-T variant, light ERA and if you are lucky, few ATGMs an equal to T-90 is a stretch... As is any T-62 modernisation "equal to T-72BM". It simply cannot be done.
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September 29th, 2009, 04:39 AM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
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Actually the above article is a perfect example of why wikipedia is the butt of so many jokes. Now, I am not perfectly up to date when it comes to syrian army but rest assured they don't have 320 T-80UK. That's simply more than the total number ever built.
Nor are their T-55/T-72 modernization (I don't know if they even bothered with the T-62s) as effective or widespread as implied.
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Yep, making T-72M1 with TURMS-T variant, light ERA and if you are lucky, few ATGMs an equal to T-90 is a stretch... As is any T-62 modernisation "equal to T-72BM". It simply cannot be done.
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This is drifting off the original topic - if you need to discuss T-72 variants then it would be better to start a new thread in the TO&E section.
Cheers
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September 9th, 2009, 04:03 PM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
I don't disagree with having good vision rating. The thing is, they do. Most countries have a variety of snipers with appropriate vision and other stats, including of course cost...so, I don't see the problem. 
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September 9th, 2009, 04:08 PM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
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I don't disagree with having good vision rating. The thing is, they do. Most countries have a variety of snipers with appropriate vision and other stats, including of course cost...so, I don't see the problem. 
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That will be because the vision rating in SP is night vision equipment, and nothing whatsoever to do with optical rifle aiming sights. See the FC and perhaps RF stats for that, plus the individual characteristics of the "sniper rifle" weapon.
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September 10th, 2009, 10:10 AM
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Re: winspmbt 5.0 ghost wish
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Originally Posted by Wdll
I don't disagree with having good vision rating. The thing is, they do. Most countries have a variety of snipers with appropriate vision and other stats, including of course cost...so, I don't see the problem. 
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That will be because the vision rating in SP is night vision equipment, and nothing whatsoever to do with optical rifle aiming sights. See the FC and perhaps RF stats for that, plus the individual characteristics of the "sniper rifle" weapon.
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Ah. Klar.
I mean I don't think they are badly done at this point, I just think that improving their spotting stats would be appropriate.
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