Forge of Godhood - started

[Calahan]

I'm not convinced ganging is a noob or a vet thing personally, since it's the nation in question and the actions of that nation which usually dictates things. From my experience, you are far more likely to see early / runaway leaders, or aggresive nations getting ganged up on. Especially if the graphs are on since it makes these things very easy to spot.

I'm slowely coming to the conclusion that if you want to win games, then it's probably best to be a strong mid-nation through the early and mid game, and not a front runner. As nations that expand as rapidly as possible, and/or conquer every neighour in sight, usually become the first nation to be gangbanged. And once that happens, it's only rarely that they've managed to build up a position strong enough to not only survive, but also win at the end of it all.

[namad]

it depends on the map... some maps don't allow for gangbangs until people learn winged boots and cloud trapeze...


if you are on a map with lots of choke points you might only ever have two neighbors and if your a front runner you might just win 2on1 after 2on1 after 2on1


on this map every has like 4neighbors in 4different directions so it's not quite the same

[archaeolept]

wait, you expand massively into everyone's spheres of influence, and then start whining when everyone doesn't just lay down before your magnificence?

the only thing I don't understand is why _all_ your neighbours aren't in for the banquet.

You clearly over-expanded and bit off more than you could chew. And I'm not even involved in this war in any way.

[Executor]

Originally Posted by archaeolept

wait, you expand massively into everyone's spheres of influence, and then start crying when everyone doesn't just lay down before your magnificence?

the only thing I don't understand is why _all_ your neighbours aren't in for the banquet.

You clearly over-expanded and bit off more than you could chew. And I'm not even involved in this war in any way.

Once again Arch, this wasn't much related to this game, rather generally speaking.

And I expanding this big because I know I have no chance of winning this game as I said before it won't be determined by skill, but rather by diplomacy no matter what you might think or say.

[archaeolept]

eh, if it's not related to this game, you're not posting in the correct thread

[vfb]

Originally Posted by Executor

I'd understand if noobs always teamed up against someone, but in dominions, it's always the opposite for some reason, vets tend to do it for more, it's a little disappointing...

Hm, who would have expected that Lich to be so resilient.

Well, come and get me ya bastards!

Ha ha ha.

If you want to get into some interesting one-on-one wars, I think you need a nice big screw-up in the first year so you won't scare everyone with your province count.

[TheDemon]

Bad luck on your part. I didn't coordinate it with Tien Chi. And even if I had, I definitely didn't think your army would be defeated.


e: And to be fair, if you are simply complaining about being ganged on by myself and TC then I don't know what you're on about. You can take us both on easilly enough. I don't know what's happening at your other borders however.

[archaeolept]

Originally Posted by TheDemon

I don't know what's happening at your other borders however.

nothing at all - although now that he has so spectacularly advertised his weakness, I wouldn't at all be surprised for that to change

basically, it would seem that he feels it unfair that you attacked him, instead of leaving him to deal w/ the mutilated remains of a previously staling T'ien Ch'i at his leisure.

[vfb]

I understand Executor's expressed frustration, since I've witnessed him get dogpiled in pretty much every game he's played in. On the other hand, Arco did rack up some pretty impressive territorial gains. But with no gem income from indy provinces, 50% income, and LA Ermor scales in abundance, only the blood hunting nations can make really good use of additional indy territory.

That said, Marignon hereby declares war on Abysia and Vanheim! As soon as I'm done with Machaka, watch out, you evil hunters of the fair young maidens. Our knights will soon ride to your rescue!*

-- The Council of Cardinals

* Please note that due to extreme resource limitations and wars with spider beasties, we are currently a wee bit short on knights, so a small gaggle of flagellants will be sent instead.

[archaeolept]

heh, vanheim can afford bloodhunters? net income is currently 66/turn, so I can afford a lvl 1 hunter 3 times a year

also, bloodhunt results are affected by gem frequency settings... so, I doubt that we will be drowning in oceans of it