Ammo armoured vehicles

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Jack_Dionne

I have been in a modified BTR (the Polish contingent uses them) in the Middle East as part of UNDOF and I can tell you they are large and lots of room.

Room would not be an issue in fact.What I was thinking about was the hatches arrangement on the original models.Same for the BTR-50, no easy way to get heavy or bulky items in and out even if space inside is abundant. I am not saying that's physically impossible but I doubt the practicality.

As far as some nationalities not having any APC that’s not the issue I am bringing to light

You were saying previously that all nationalities should have armored ammo carriers. That could be accomplished by making ammo carrier variant of APCs available. But if there are no APCs then what should be used?

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by Marcello

Room would not be an issue in fact.What I was thinking about was the hatches arrangement on the original models.Same for the BTR-50, no easy way to get heavy or bulky items in and out even if space inside is abundant. I am not saying that's physically impossible but I doubt the practicality.

You were saying previously that all nationalities should have armored ammo carriers. That could be accomplished by making ammo carrier variant of APCs available. But if there are no APCs then what should be used?

The issue with ammo is the bulk and weight of the packages. When simply dumped in a crew compartment with no proper preparation, these large heavy lumps will fly about like loose rocks and pulverise any crew.

Dedicated ammo carriers have proper stowage arrangements for the ammo built in, unlike the normal APC. They also do not carry crew inside.

When in the mortar platoon in my bn, ammo went in the 1/4(?) ton trailers the land rovers pulled, tied down and with a tarp on top. Crew and bits went in the rover.

When doing some arty wotk at OTC, some 4-tonners were proper arty tows, and had ammo bays in the sides of the truck. Crew went in the flatbed, gun hitched on the back. When using a regular 4-tonner to shift ammo, it was either ammo alone on the flatbed (tied down) with no personnel mixed in it, or we made a "well" at the front of the flatbed for a few boxes of shells and charges, and tied a barrier of ropes across the seats to stop the boxes breaking loose and squishing the detachment. But that was only approved for use on the metalled road to the firing position, and very limited (flat) off-road from the road to the firing position, not for any really hairy (bouncy) cross-country work.

Nations that don't have any sort of dedicated armoured vehicle for resupply, simply will not have them. End of.

Andy