Swiss MBT March 1957

[DRG]

The Swiss Pz 57 has been corrected. Research is pointing to mid to late 1959 as the earliest for the L7 gun and once I can confirm that the OOB's using it earlier than that will be corrected.

Where's your latest version of obat53 Pats ?

Good catch on the error Drez

Don

[drez]

sure thing! I'm glad I did not take the tanks then would have been gamey

[Pats]

Originally Posted by DRG

The Swiss Pz 57 has been corrected. Research is pointing to mid to late 1959 as the earliest for the L7 gun and once I can confirm that the OOB's using it earlier than that will be corrected.

Where's your latest version of obat53 Pats ?

Good catch on the error Drez

Don

My latest version is under the obat53 Switzerland posts, also wrote there the vision is possible incorect.

[DRG]

Originally Posted by Pats

My latest version is under the obat53 Switzerland posts, also wrote there the vision is possible incorect.

I've had it so long I forgot I had it

So "Modified Original obat53 (4.5).zip " contains a stock game OOB that you have just made the changes you noted ......correct ?

Did you find a photo for this ??

Unit 692 - <4.7cm IK 35/41 (class 2 Inf-AT) is assigned to nation 0 Unknown – I can see why; it’s actually a bit a silly picture for it…it’s more like LBM 684 – I’ll try to find a better one

Do you still have the original photos you used to make those PIC's you included ??

Don

[Pats]

So "Modified Original obat53 (4.5).zip " contains a stock game OOB that you have just made the changes you noted ......correct ?

Yes

Did you find a photo for this ??

No (I didn't look foor it very hard)

Do you still have the original photos you used to make those PIC's you included ??

No, because about a month ago I had a HD crash and lost lots of data (I didn't backup everything)..
I had to download my own modified files back from here

[Imp]

No, because about a month ago I had a HD crash and lost lots of data (I didn't backup everything)..
I had to download my own modified files back from here

Thats a bummer, now take the view its going to happen sometime if you use it a lot. Installing a second hard drive is cheap nowadays so can do a full backup. That way if it crashes just swapdrives you boot from & format old one if it still works. If you buy a new computer transfer the backup drive & copy any stuff over you want & your safe again. Saves loads of time if it goes belly up so money well spent in my view.

[Pats]

Originally Posted by Imp

Thats a bummer, now take the view its going to happen sometime if you use it a lot. Installing a second hard drive is cheap nowadays so can do a full backup. That way if it crashes just swapdrives you boot from & format old one if it still works. If you buy a new computer transfer the backup drive & copy any stuff over you want & your safe again. Saves loads of time if it goes belly up so money well spent in my view.

Could do, but it's my 2nd pc (for gaming) that I don't backup - not my "serius" 1st one

[DRG]

Originally Posted by DRG

Did you find a photo for this ??

If 4.7cm IK 35/41 is indeed what you want in the Swiss OOB then it looks very much like the photo you have in their now and there is no way it's a infantry type AT weapon like a Boyes, it's an AT gun


http://www.festung-oberland.ch/Waffe...47IK/47IK.html

Don

[Pats]

Originally Posted by DRG

If 4.7cm IK 35/41 is indeed what you want in the Swiss OOB then it looks very much like the photo you have in their now and there is no way it's a infantry type AT weapon like a Boyes, it's an AT gun


http://www.festung-oberland.ch/Waffe...47IK/47IK.html

Don

I don't think I can remember where I thought I have seen a more mobile 4.7 cm gun like e.g. a Boyes or the 20mm Solothurn in the Swiss oob. AFAIK it was only a prototyp - so to say an ancestor of the later 8cm AT weapons. Not so relevant for the game any way. The AT-Gun version is enough.

[Pats]

To come back a bit on the topic, the Swiss MBT need an other change I think.
The upgrade in 2007 of the Leopard 2 tank (Unit 026 - Pz 87 LEO WE) isn't as it could be.
First the extra Armor hasn't been fitted on any of the tanks other then the prototyp and the automatic weapon station on the roof will not be completed at all.

So my suggestion would be to delay the date on Unit 876 for at least 1 year (2009) - because that would represant the full upgrade that would be possible in 2009.

And change the Unit 026 to introduncing 2008 with following modifications:
1st use the picture from Unit 027 (lbm32115) and therefore the same armor as in this earlier version.
2nd swap Weapon2 (228) back to Weapon No 226.

The upgrade is mainly cancelled or delayed due cost reasons and some problems with the new tower equipement.