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December 27th, 2009, 11:45 AM
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Re: Range Key Doesn't Work
The targeted unit is kept unless it moves out of sight, you move too much and your stabilizer can't keep up, or your unit op fires onto other unit as far as i can tell
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December 27th, 2009, 04:55 PM
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Re: Range Key Doesn't Work
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The targeted unit is kept unless it moves out of sight, you move too much and your stabilizer can't keep up, or your unit op fires onto other unit as far as i can tell
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Thanks for that, but I wonder sometimes. For instance, assume that, as in my current game, you have 3 Polish AC's in sight of one PZIVB. They all are moving, yet the target the tank has gave a 19% result when going through the target selection, yet, another of those targets, actually further away and with the same size and movement status (all moving, but with different speeds) pulled up 21%.
Here's a strange one, and I've never noticed this before. I have a clump of cavalry a good 500 yds in front of some polish tanks, which my PZIIIB/D can see all of them. Leave all the guns active and it targets the closest cavalry. Turn off the main gun to engage it with MG's only, and re-target it, and now it selects a tank first. Needless to say, if that targeter were always just targeting the last fired at unit, if indeed it had any (and from what I can tell it actually did not fire on the AI turn), then it shouldn't come up with different targets just because I turned the main gun off. The silly thing about it, is that the MG weapon can't range out to the 1650yds that the tank is at, and it being an HE weapon should make it even more prone to target the cavalry which is within it's range. I don't consider that targeting a unit it now cannot fire at is anything to worry about, because it will show it cannto fire that far if you actually try to fire, but what is a bit troubling is that it comes up with different results as though just changing a gun makes it think it fired differently than it did. I understand that "if" the unit had fired on my turn, but not on the AI turn, it 'might' retain the last time I fired with it (though this tank did not fire on that cavalry on my turn and I don't think it did on the AI turn either) and also that it might just be the last unit it 'targeted' not the last unit it 'fired upon'. Beats me.
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December 27th, 2009, 05:08 PM
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Re: Range Key Doesn't Work
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The targeted unit is kept unless it moves out of sight, you move too much and your stabilizer can't keep up, or your unit op fires onto other unit as far as i can tell
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Thanks for that, but I wonder sometimes. For instance, assume that, as in my current game, you have 3 Polish AC's in sight of one PZIVB. They all are moving, yet the target the tank has gave a 19% result when going through the target selection, yet, another of those targets, actually further away and with the same size and movement status (all moving, but with different speeds) pulled up 21%.
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The furthest of the targets was probrably the one you/tank crew shot/opfired, or at least targeted the last turn, so the hit chance is increased for the next shot, that's called target solution, the crew is trying to find out how to take a shot that hits.
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December 27th, 2009, 08:55 PM
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Re: Range Key Doesn't Work
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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP
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Originally Posted by Charles22
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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP
The targeted unit is kept unless it moves out of sight, you move too much and your stabilizer can't keep up, or your unit op fires onto other unit as far as i can tell
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Thanks for that, but I wonder sometimes. For instance, assume that, as in my current game, you have 3 Polish AC's in sight of one PZIVB. They all are moving, yet the target the tank has gave a 19% result when going through the target selection, yet, another of those targets, actually further away and with the same size and movement status (all moving, but with different speeds) pulled up 21%.
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The furthest of the targets was probrably the one you/tank crew shot/opfired, or at least targeted the last turn, so the hit chance is increased for the next shot, that's called target solution, the crew is trying to find out how to take a shot that hits.
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That may be an accurate accessment, and it's one I'm trying to believe, but it does contradict what you said earlier. If I have a unit and hit F, then the target it comes up with first, is the one it shot at last, is what you seemed to have told me. I know there are some SP's that worked that way, but this one and some of the earlier versions don't appear to do that. How many times, for instance, have I hit F and it actually gives me the furtherest target, one completely outside of the range I gave it, and often even completely outside the range of any of the unit's guns?
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December 28th, 2009, 04:41 PM
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Re: Range Key Doesn't Work
F is the hotkey for FIRE, the hotkey to set target is T, so, when you press f you are firing at the designated target, if there is one, if not, unit won't fire.
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December 29th, 2009, 09:49 PM
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Re: Range Key Doesn't Work
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F is the hotkey for FIRE, the hotkey to set target is T, so, when you press f you are firing at the designated target, if there is one, if not, unit won't fire.
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That sounds right. My knowledge of what I'm hitting on the keyboard largely stems from a spot on that keyboard, or a certain sequence to hit, and so what happens to be painted on those keys is absent sometimes. I must think I'm hitting F when I'm hitting T.
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December 31st, 2009, 10:44 AM
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Re: Range Key Doesn't Work
they're close to each other so, yeah, you might be hitting the wrong key, happens a lot for people who can't type without looking at the keyboard 
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