What's the latest Version of Pirates and Nomads

Phoenix-D · #1 July 5th, 2002, 10:43 PM

2.5 PBW is for SE4 Version 1.49; 3.00 is for Gold.

Other than that.. no idea. I CAN say that the AI will do a really bad job in 2.5 PBW, because that's a "human's only" Version.

Tnarg · #2 July 5th, 2002, 10:55 PM

Hmmm, bummer, 2.5 looked like it had a few more racial traits and components. Oh well, what you do. Thanks

Suicide Junkie · #3 July 5th, 2002, 11:33 PM

I'm testing a PBW Version 2.6, and I'll goldify it after its been tested a bit.

The P&N "PBW" Versions do not support AIs, but I plan to make a more limited Version that the AIs can handle later.

capnq · #4 July 5th, 2002, 11:52 PM

A "regular" empire is like unmodded SE IV, except for new items in the advanced traits, components, and mounts, and the quasi-Newtonian propulsion system.

Nomads have access to their own specialized tech, but I haven't tried that yet, so I don't know what's available.

I haven't tried playing a Pirate yet, either, but I know that they also have specialized tech, and get most of their resources and advanced technology via ship capture.

Phoenix-D · #5 July 6th, 2002, 12:01 AM

"The P&N "PBW" Versions do not support AIs, but I plan to make a more limited Version that the AIs can handle later."

Couldn't this be done by means of a racial trait? I.e. instead of the AIs picking "normal", have them pick "AI normal".

Then again, I suppose you could have already rejected that for some reason..

Phoenix-D

Suicide Junkie · #6 July 6th, 2002, 08:02 PM

Its not just that. The PBW Version has been changed enough that the AIs would need hardcode changes.

EG: Supplies are a resource. In order to get more, you have to bring solar panels, or fleet with a base that has solar panels. Or build a new ship from scratch (they start with full supplies)
There are no resupply depots, or quantum reactors.
EG2: Cloaking depends on four separate components plus your hull size. You need to combine stealth, scattering and small hull sizes to hide from most races, you need a master computer to hide from psychic races, and tachyon equipment to hide from temporal races.

Those two are probably the biggest problems for the AI.

Phoenix-D · #7 July 6th, 2002, 09:04 PM

I know. But you could let the AIs cheat

(i.e. give them a tech tree that works normally)

Then again, some *player* would probably pick that racial trait. Ooops.

Phoenix-D