Vengeance of the Dead makes me angry!

[Bananadine]

Not if you don't know about the extreme harshness and (arguable) bugginess of the routing rules in this spell's battles! Of course I'd do that stuff NOW, but, see, that unit I just lost has been with me for a year. This isn't Starcraft or something, where you lose your awesome unit that you love and then start a new game twenty minutes later and build a new awesome unit! People should be expected to roll with the punches most of the time, yes, but not ALL the time--not when they're as nasty and cheap as this!

A dude in the thread linked below (which, again, covers most of this in great detail) claims that even living (as opposed to undead) immortals can be permanently killed by this spell! THAT I would not expect--not as a new player, not even as a person who's been playing for years.

So, this problem warrants a pre-game warning.

(Part of the reason why I'm keen on this "warning" idea is that, now that I know how crazily harsh Vengeance of the Dead can be, I'm going to start casting it more against my own enemies! And if I don't warn them first, I'll feel like a jerk.)

[Slobby]

Originally Posted by Bananadine

...just lost has been with me for a year....

Aw and here I had been hoping that she would die to a doom horror after all the horror marks I gave her! Can we expect a mummy?

(all assuming of course that the unit you lost is who I think it is...)

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by Bananadine

Not if you don't know about the extreme harshness and (arguable) bugginess of the routing rules in this spell's battles! Of course I'd do that stuff NOW, but, see, that unit I just lost has been with me for a year. This isn't Starcraft or something, where you lose your awesome unit that you love and then start a new game twenty minutes later and build a new awesome unit! People should be expected to roll with the punches most of the time, yes, but not ALL the time--not when they're as nasty and cheap as this!

I'm surprised you spent a year building up one unit. Dom3 is a wargame, individual units are always expendable and die in great whacking lots. VotD is a lot less nasty than Petrify, for example.

-Max

[Bananadine]

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

I'm surprised you spent a year building up one unit. Dom3 is a wargame, individual units are always expendable and die in great whacking lots. VotD is a lot less nasty than Petrify, for example.

It is now, for me, because I know how it works now. But see I knew how Petrify worked before I ever cast it, because the spell's description says how it works!

I know most of my units are supposed to die, and I know a fair number of them will and probably should die stupidly, even. I had an extremely powerful and important commander get mind hunted, in my last game, just before the big Fire Storm he'd been ordered to cast, and without that fire, all his important, powerful friends couldn't beat the attacking army, so they died too. That hurt me much more than this will! And if I'd thought things through more thoroughly, I could have predicted and prevented that mind hunt without a lot of trouble, so it was pretty stupid that it happened. But that incident didn't get any forum thread! Stupid deaths are normal. This is an ugly, fiction-breaking death, arguably caused by a bug. It should not be normal.

(making it sound like a great big deal again)