Seeking Arrow & Shadow Brand

[sector24]

Here is the extensive testing: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42946

Short answer, luck and air shield help.

[Verjigorm]

Originally Posted by sector24

Here is the extensive testing: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=42946

Short answer, luck and air shield help.

80% Air Shield from a Shroud didn't appear to help, but I didn't engage the mystics in combat first either... Let me try that quick...

Nah, it doesn't do anything...

Robe of Missile Protection blocks it 100%, but an Air bless from a Shroud has no effect regardless of whether or not the wearer engages in a battle beforehand or not.

[Calahan]

That's a nice find regarding the Air Bless Verjigorm Can't recall anyone mentioning it before. Probably because it's so rare that anyone takes a meaningful Air Bless.

With your permission, I will add your findings and an appropriate test game to my thread about various Seeking Arrow tests that is linked above. And of course credit you accordingly with this find.


I've posted several test games on the forum, and two useful tips I find to follow are.....

1) Try to use maps that come with the vanilla game so that everyone can access the game files you post. For example, people are unable to access the test game you've provided above because they lack the 'TestBed.rgb' map file. Which I'm guessing is a small test map you've created to quickly test stuff out (I'd imagine a lot of players have a map like this). The Silent Seas map I find to be a good small vanilla map for testing.

And try to provide any mods you've used as well, since some can be hard to track down if they go out of date (old versions of CBM for example).


2) Try to avoid making absolute claims unless your tests are incredibly intensive. For example here....

Originally Posted by Verjigorm

....Robe of Missile Protection blocks it 100%,....

...you claim the Robe of Missile Protection offers 100% protection against Seeking Arrow. Which is not true, but it does help a lot (around 80% actually ), but it does not offer absolute 100% protection. There are not that many absolutes in Dominions, as most of the time the things you can do just affect the odds of something (elemental protection is an example of an absolute though)


Thanks again for the find. Keep up the good work as they say

[Verjigorm]

Apologies for the 100/80%. Yes, it's 80%, but the bless effect on the shroud still doesn't do anything which was the biggest disappointment. I suppose, though, shroud is a 1S item that can combat diseases without healers (with Nature bless) on any mage among other very useful in-combat applications, so it's already quite awesome if only for those reasons.

I had wondered about the map thing... I suppose simply copying the map files into the save game directory (since they're tiny anyway) would be the most efficient method as that is how random maps work.

[Calahan]

Originally Posted by Verjigorm

I had wondered about the map thing... I suppose simply copying the map files into the save game directory (since they're tiny anyway) would be the most efficient method as that is how random maps work.

The .map files are tiny, but I believe you will also need to include the image file for the map as well. This is usually a .rgb or .tga file, which is usually between 5-50Mb depending on size, resolution etc.

In our current example, the 'TestBed.rgb' file is needed to access the turn file, to go along with the required (probably named) 'TestBed'.map file.