T-72b Rogatka

[Wdll]

How can you...this is insane...
Yes there are helos that manage to have the same range.

They are HELICOPTERS flying higher than 2m from the ground and they are the not even the rule among helicopters. There are plenty of helicopters that have view range of 0. Does this mean the pilot has a blanket covering the helicopter?

I am sorry, but I have seen nothing to make me believe that the specific unit is entitled to a view range of 60. I don't care if the missile can hit the moon. The vehicle does not have the optics to see (in relation to the other ones) that far away.

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by Wdll

How can you...this is insane...
There are plenty of helicopters that have view range of 0. Does this mean the pilot has a blanket covering the helicopter?

In a dense fog/bad conditions an helicopter with no vision aid will indeed see exactly diddly squat even if it is flying at 300 meters of height.As any pilot will attest.

Whereas a radar system on the ground will see much further than it becausese radar waves penetrate fog (which incidentally can play some tricks at least with some thermal sights). Understand?

And if visibility is **** and the both have radars they will see only as far as their radar can see.

If the radar mounted on the helicopter is not more powerful and capable than the one on the ground it will not see further (not at the ranges we are talking about anyway) even if it is sitting on Himalaya. There will typically be fewer obstructions but that's it.

I can't make it simpler that the above.

[Marcello]

Note also that there already are several ground vehicles with a range of 50 in the game.A partial list including:

1) BTR-94
2) BRM-3K
3) M577A2
4) SNAR-10

[Marcello]

There is nothing showing that the specific vehicle has better optics/view/whatever you want to call it, than most modern vehicles, including modern gunships. As for the hill example, it works the other way too, place a modern gunship (except 1 or 2 models) on top of that same hill level 5, and it will see less than the khrisantema-s. Based on what?

On the fact it is fitted with a millimetric radar set, which all the others vehicles you keep talking about lack.
The presence of the radar is confirmed by every source and every picture of the vehicle.
And on the, well known, fact that radar has better long range detection characteristics than optical systems, including thermal sights, especially in several conditions. If you didn't know that, now you do. If you don't believe me, then do some reading on you own.
Thermal sights have several advantages such as lower bulk, lower vulnerability and power consumption, are passive and cannot be jammed, but radar does beat them at the pure range game, especially under some circumstance.
And radar fitted ground units, and there are several of them in the game even if you never noticed them, have always had greater range than thermal sights fitted MBTs you keep talking about, precisely to reflect this. There is absolutely nothing insane about this.

[Wdll]

Originally Posted by Marcello

Note also that there already are several ground vehicles with a range of 50 in the game.A partial list including:

1) BTR-94
2) BRM-3K
3) M577A2
4) SNAR-10

Apparently I am speaking to myself here.

The vehicle in question has a vision of 60.

[Marcello]

Apparently I am speaking to myself here.

The vehicle in question has a vision of 60.

50 is still greater than 40, and according to your previous posts it should not be correct since it can still further than the most modern MBT and Helos you keep bringing up.
But as I explained there are good reasons for giving radar extra range over optical systems and this is in fact well established in the game.
I hope that that has finally sunk in.
50 is a convention because the radar fitted to those vehicles were simple surveillance types.
So now you wonder why this vehicle wound 60, comparable to high end gunships?
Because it is a modern millimetric set, exactly like the one mounted on said gunships and exactly unlike the others ground vehicles. Hence 60.

Now if you want to argue that the Khrizantema radar does not deserve 60 and should be knocked back to 50 or 55 because it is a POS compared to Longbow, then you might actually be arguing something pretty reasonable. Given however we both know nothing and nada about its characteristics beyond "modern millimetric set" I am not sure where facts are going to come from.