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Old April 23rd, 2011, 11:47 AM
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British Ammo Lorry and Barge Carrier


Ammo Lorry unit 230

1. Could give this unit its own icon, changing the icon to a more realistic size and type.

The Ammo lorry is size 3 but the icon looks more like a size 5 American ‘big rig’ truck.
Could change the icon to a Bedford OXD which would be size 3 (195x86 inches), 4x2 drivetrain and even the OXD speed is about right at 72 Kmh. So the only thing you’d change is the icon.

Bedford OXD source
http://en.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/21805 (Source: Encyclopedia of historical military vehicles - Ivo Prague)


Barge carrier unit 248

1. Could change the icon to a large British lorry, like the Leyland Hippo. (Size: 327x97 inches)
The Hippo was first made in 1934 but a Mk.II military oriented version came out in 1943.

2. Could change the speed, as the Hippo had a speed of 65 Kmh

3. Could change the drive, as the Hippo was 6x4

Leyland Hippo source:
http://www.dws-xip.pl/encyklopedia/mapa-witryny.html

Ammo Lorry and Barge carrier icons (my soft vehicle icons are 5 inches to a pixel)




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Old April 23rd, 2011, 12:11 PM
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British BMP Icons

I’ll attach the British icons I’ve done to this post.
Anyone can use or edit these if they wish.

There’s a couple of icons that are not mentioned in this thread. I’ve slightly modded the Jeep and the Austin 7 /Humber Snipe icon.


Humber Snipe
Jeep
Humber Box Heavy Utility
Austin 10 Light Utility
Morris C8 Quad FAT
Bedford MWD 15cwt
Bedford MWD 15 cwt Ammo Truck
Morris CS8 15cwt
Guy Quad-Ant 15cwt
Fordson WOT8 30cwt
Austin K30 30cwt
AEC Matador GT
Bedford QLT 3 ton
Bedford QLD 3 ton
Bedford OYD 3 ton
Bedford OXD 30cwt Ammo Lorry
Leyland Hippo 10 ton
Leyland Hippo 10 ton Flatbed





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Old April 23rd, 2011, 05:31 PM
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Soviet Utility Vehicles

Jeep - unit 46

The Jeep available date could be moved forward from Jul 43 to early 42, as I found a couple of sources that say they started to receive it in fall/late 1941 and early 42.
The Amphib Jeep (unit 107) is currently available to the Soviets on Jan 43, earlier than the normal Jeep.

Soviet Jeep sources:
Late 41:
http://www.o5m6.de/bantam.html
Early 42:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/k/w/lendleas.jpg
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/willysmb.htm

Additional Utility Vehicles

The Soviets don’t seem to have a light utility vehicle until the Jeeps become available in 1943.

Two possible additions:

GAZ M1 ‘Emka’ Staff Car
Available: 1935
Produced: 62,888
Drive: 4x2
Size: 182 x 70 inches
Speed: 100 Kmh

This car was almost the only commander car during most difficult first year of the war. Later it was substituted by Willys MA and MB.
This car is very famous and prevailing car of war times, it is mentioned even in this period songs. People called it "Emka" for letter M in its name.


GAZ M1 sources
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gazm1.htm
http://www.o5m6.de/gaz_m1.html

Could use the Austin 7 staff car icon for the M1
Top down picture of M1



GAZ 67 Utility
Available: Sep 1943
Produced: 4,851 (during WW2)
Drive: 4x4
Size: 132 x 66 inches
Speed: 90 Kmh

The GAZ 67 was the Soviet Jeep. Of course they had the US Jeep by this time, in fact it was largely a copy of the Jeep, but it would give this OOB more of a Soviet flavour.

GAZ 67 sources
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gaz67.htm
Top down picture:
http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/...AZ/GAZ-67B.htm

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Soviet Light Trucks 3/4 ton (15 cwt)

The only light truck in the Soviet OOB is an AOP vehicle:

AOP Light Truck – unit 134
Crew: 4
Carry: 106
Speed: 12
Size: 3
Avail: 1930

1. Perhaps it should be size 2?

Additional Light Trucks

If you wanted to give the Soviet OOB a light truck, there's the GAZ-4 and GAZ-M415 pickup trucks (3/4 ton). The earlier GAZ-4 is smaller, a bit more utility than light truck, and may not carry as many men.
The GAZ-M415 may be the better choice.

GAZ-4 Pickup Truck 3/4 ton
Available: 1933
Speed: 90 Kmh
Drive: 4x2
Produced: 10,648
Size: 161 x 67 inches (size 2)

GAZ-4 source:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gaz4.htm

GAZ-M415 Pickup Truck 3/4 ton
Available: 1939
Speed: 90 Kmh
Drive: 4x2
Produced: 8,000+
Size: 180 x 70 inches (size 2)

The GAZ-M415 was the pickup truck version of the ‘Emka’ Staff car.

Image of GAZ-M415


GAZ-M415 sources:
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gaz415.htm
http://www.bonanza.com/booths/McSim/...up_USSR_Ford_B

It may also make sense to adjust the AOP Light Truck (unit 134) to the same icon, speed, and size as the GAZ pickup truck.

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Soviet Medium GAZ Trucks

Pic of three GAZ


The truck body was the same for each of the three main versions, but the drivetrain was different:

GAZ-AA…... drive: 4x2
GAZ-AAA… drive: 6x4
GAZ-60……. drive: halftrack

The most common GAZ medium trucks were called GAZ-AA and GAZ-AAA, but the name has nothing to do with ‘anti-aircraft’ so would cause confusion.

Apart from unit class, unit 44 and 465 are identical in the game.

GAZ Truck...unit 44...Med Truck......carry 118...size 3...4x2
GAZ Truck...unit 465...Med Truck......carry 118...size 3...4x2
GAZ 60......unit 829...Med Half-track...carry 118...size 3...H-track

1. Could convert unit 465 into a 4WD (6x4) version (37,000 built) but the 6x4 wasn’t available until 1935, and both trucks are currently available from 1930 in the game; but this is probably not important. The Halftrack is available in 1939 which is correct.

2. Could rename them to:

GAZ Medium Truck…..…unit 44
GAZ Medium Truck 6x4…unit 465
GAZ-60 Med Halftrack..…unit 829

3. Unit 465 may be wrong unit class 23 (APC wheel)
4. Could create new icon/icons (all are 210x80 inches, but the tracks of GAZ-60 may make it a bit wider)

GAZ Medium Truck sources:
http://www.o5m6.de/gaz_aa.html
http://www.o5m6.de/gaz_aaa_1937.html
http://www.o5m6.de/gaz_60.html
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gazaa.htm
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gazaaa.htm
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gaz60.htm

GAZ Top down picture


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Could use open truck for 4x2
and covered truck for 6x4




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I'm wondering if is there an easy way to put your icons into the game?
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I'm wondering if is there an easy way to put your icons into the game?
Perhaps...

You could ask someone to post their shp files after they've been edited, that would be an easy way to add icons to the game. I may post some edited shp files, but not yet.

One of the problems is that soft vehicles from different nations sometimes share the same generic truck icon. So if you replace a generic icon with a nation specific icon, all the nations that used the original generic icon will now have the custom icon.



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