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[Fyron]

I have had no intention to buy it.

[disabled]

I think if MM says it's good enough to sell, then it's good enough to buy.

[ June 16, 2003, 02:33: Message edited by: General Talashar ]

[Fyron]

Hadrian, it doesn't matter how good of a mod it is. It is the principal of the thing. Mods are supposed to be freely available to all, not charged for. I am sure that it will be a good mod. But that does not justify selling it for profit, regardless of whether MM and Shrapnel approve of you doing so or not.

If UM2 was available for a free download, I would most certainly download it and try it out. Even if I was on dial-up. Heck, I downloaded at least 100 ship sets and a bunch of mods like a year ago when I was using a dial up modem and a free ISP. Large downloads are not really a problem. And if bandwidth is an issue on SE.org, I am sure that there would be people willing to let you use their web space provided by their ISPs for hosting UM2.

[ July 21, 2002, 00:08: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Pax]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Hadrian, it doesn't matter how good of a mod it is. It is the principal of the thing. Mods are supposed to be freely available to all, not charged for. I am sure that it will be a good mod. But that does not justify selling it for profit, regardless of whether MM and Shrapnel approve of you doing so or not.

Am I the only one that noted the "profits" from Hadrian selling his new mod would go towards maintianing SE.org?

Does the community not value SE.org as a resource ... ? Is desirign to make the hobby at least pay for itself such a horrible thing?

I don't see a problem here. Fyron, and the other objectors: if you don't want to pay for it, don't buy it ... that doesn't mean you should attack the -concept- of it being for sale. After all, what does it cost YOU, if say I decide it's worth the $10 to buy the CD ... ?

Answer: absolutely nothing.

So, where's your ***** with him selling it ... ?

[Fyron]

Pax, reread my Posts if you don't see my point.

Personally, I have never seen a use for SE.org. Every time I go there recently, it is being changed to a new layout and 90% of the links are broken or lead to empty pages. It used to have stuff to download, but hasn't for a long time.

Edit: Ok, I spoke too soon. It does have a little content now.

[ July 21, 2002, 00:54: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[geoschmo]

Guys, Let's try to get this thread back on track. Your opinions have been made pretty clear on both sides. This is running close to turning into a personal argument. If you don't have any comments directly to the point of Hadrians question, he is the one who started the thread afterall, perhaps you should just keep them to yourself.

I will repost Hadrians original question here for those that don't wish to scroll down and reread it.

Geoschmo

Originally posted by Hadrian Tyrael S. Aventine:
For many, I know you are all more than fed-up with the Ultimate Mod II being delayed to the point where I rarely comment on it's release date.

What I wanted to know is if you guys had ideas to speed this up. I currently have the Idea to release it in smaller sets like the Star Systems in one, maybe a racial tech tree here, some facilities there and so on, then when I get done, wrap them all up and fire them off into one big CD collection.

Now what won't be given out this route is the Omega Directive Campaigns, Multiplayer Maps - All 200 of them, the special websites, the movies, and possibly the music (gotta make it sound good before).

When it's done, I will put it all together in once kick-*** mod on one CD and on the other CD will be the music.

I'm also considering putting in promotional stuff for my other projects and maybe a few progs I've written.

Any thoughts?

[Fyron]

Then back to the original question...

I think you should set everything up in smaller files for downloading. Not just a few parts, but all of it.