Myth - EA, CBM 1.92, no diplo - tratorix/Agartha & Valerius/Vanheim win

Valerius · #1 September 13th, 2011, 02:27 PM

I would suggest posting your comments regarding Yomi in the CBM discussion thread in the mods subforum rather than the main forum. Though thematically that seems a fairly significant change from the core paths of FED, as all of your cheap research mages can now cast orb lightning (or lightning bolt after casting summon storm power) and a quarter can cast lightning bolt/thunderstrike.

Which reminds me that I need to look over the rest of the changes in 1.91. So far I've only reviewed the glamour nations and MA Man.

I'm going to PM llama to see if he's decided to participate and also whether we should wait for another CBM release.

BrodieSWR · #2 September 13th, 2011, 02:38 PM

Mmm, good point Valerius, I didn't think about the CBM thread, :P. Durp!

But anyway, it could see how it could be a bit too strong, but I just felt like Yomi gets jipped seeing as how they have a whole slew of "national" spells that they can't even access reasonably well such as Contact Nushi and Contact Dai-tengu. Air magic is SO vital to Yomi that the fact that Air 2 Dai-Oni are basically godsends makes Air a NECESSITY on your pretender, severely limiting your builds and options.

Maybe if they were made a little more expensive to compensate?

Anyway, I'll continue this in the other thread as you suggested. Thanks for your point of view, it made me think twice.

Valerius · #3 September 13th, 2011, 03:10 PM

No problem.

And llama may agree with you but I know he, and qm before him, like to stay with a nation's theme. Yomi has traditionally been considered one of the weaker EA nations (not sure if things have improved for them in recent CBM releases) so if that's still the case llama might well be open to a boost - but he'd likely want to make sure if was thematic.

But I see what you're saying about having trouble summoning national summons. Not sure if the idea was that you had to either get lucky with randoms and/or make sure your pretender can summon them but there have been other cases where CBM made it easier for mages to cast national summons so that's worth bringing up when you post in the CBM thread.