malfador-off topic

sachmo · #1 July 24th, 2002, 06:50 PM

Pax,

There will always be those who prefer great graphics to strong play. Those people usually don't care about longevity of thier games...it's sort of like a roller coaster to them. Run thru it one and it's over. I can't blame them...but for my money, I want replayability. Like nethack or ADOM. For the money, they can't be beat, because they are FREE!

Atraikius · #2 July 24th, 2002, 06:54 PM

I'm not very thrilled with the graphics either, but you can easily convert the terrain graphics from civilization 3 to be used in DO (best thing about civ 3 for me).

Haven't tried neverwinter, but it has more replayability than the baldurs gate series (isn't the same as Last time but with different characters), and has some very interesting posibilities from a DM's aspect (as in writing modules), and for Mod's (could be modded for anything from ancient history to role-playing an intelligence mission in the SEIV setting).

Puke · #3 July 24th, 2002, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by sachmo:
...but for my money, I want replayability. Like nethack

Best. Game. Ever.

geoschmo · #4 July 24th, 2002, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:
Best. Game. Ever.

Nethack? Can you explain why? I downloaded it and tried it a few months ago. I don't want to start a fight, but it was pretty boring to me. But maybe I was missing some aspect of it or something. move, fight, move, fight, die.

Half the time I didn't know there was a creature there until after I had killed it, or it had killed me.

Geoschmo

sachmo · #5 July 24th, 2002, 08:25 PM

Geo,

to be honest, nethack and other rougelike games are not for everyone. The graphics pretty much suck, and the story usually takes a back seat. The point of the game is the joy of slaughtering monsters and trying to stay alive as long as possible. Or finding new ways to die, like the time in ADOM when my 11th level Paladin died from eating a Gorgon corpse. Just a note, if you eat a Gorgon, you WILL turn to stone...

Most Rougelike games take a while to get used to as they have a ton of commands, and you will generally die a lot while trying to learn the game. To make Nethack a bit more fun, try Nethack Falcon's Eye (www.the-underdogs.org) as it has much better graphics. Or for another dungeon crawl, try this game:
http://www.valinor.freeserve.co.uk/k...harnemain.html

geoschmo · #6 July 24th, 2002, 08:31 PM

I don't mind the lack of graphics. There did seem to be a LOT of commands, I will grant you that. The main thing I didn't like about it was there didn't seem to be any point to the game. The reason I liked D&D so much was getting into the character and becoming part of this universe. I don't need graphics for that, but I do need some kind of story, besides just wandering a random ceries of caves killing as many creatures as I could find. I am hoping DO has that, or I will not care for it much I am afraid.

Geoschmo

[ July 24, 2002, 19:32: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Krakenup · #7 July 24th, 2002, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by Puke:

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Originally posted by sachmo:
...but for my money, I want replayability. Like nethack

Best. Game. Ever.

I was addicted to Angband/ZAngband for about 5 years. It took me a year and a half to beat it the first time.

It's really satisfying to kill a 'D'.

http://thangorodrim.angband.org/

Even. Better. Than. Nethack.