malfador-off topic

geoschmo · #1 July 24th, 2002, 09:44 PM

Well, I am verbal.

And I like puzzles, and thinking. I guess maybe I just didn't give it enough of a chance to grow on me.

I used to love the old text based adventure games, like Zork. They didn't even have an ascii head over display like Nethack. You wanted to look at the room you typed a command and got a descrition of the room. So I don't need graphics to make me happy by any means. And that Midway game Puke fixed for me a while back was ascii like nethack.

Are there "adventures" or scenarios in nethack or is it all random? And is there any way to play with more than one person?

Geoschmo

Phoenix-D · #2 July 24th, 2002, 10:04 PM

"If eye-candy is more important to people than storyline and gameplay for people here ... if folks prefer appearance over -substance- .."

All other things equal, a game with superior graphics and sound wins. All other things being equal.

And personally a game with REALLY bad graphics is worse than a text game to me. They make me nausous.

Phoenix-D

tesco samoa · #3 July 24th, 2002, 10:12 PM

If eye-candy is more important to people than storyline and gameplay for people here ... if folks prefer appearance over -substance- ...

.... IMO that's sad. 8(

...

Ok.... No where did i say I like the Bioware games because of eyecandy.

Bioware games have 'substance'

I just don't see why that game is being developed when the current crop of Role-Playing/Adventure games are fantastic.

Would you pay 49.99 US for that game?
When you can spend 19.99 and pick up Baulders Gate 2 ?
Or 9.99 and pick up the icewind dale games...
Hell, 4.99 and pick up the AD&D boxset with the eye of the beholder series,,, pools of radiance.. etc if you want some throw back.

Or the Kings Quest,,,or Wheel of time or...wizardry...

Icewind dale II will be out soon.

There are many many RPG Games out there.

Well off again...

Graeme Dice · #4 July 24th, 2002, 10:23 PM

Quote:

I just don't see why that game is being developed when the current crop of Role-Playing/Adventure games are fantastic.

Would you pay 49.99 US for that game?
When you can spend 19.99 and pick up Baulders Gate 2 ?
Or 9.99 and pick up the icewind dale games...
Hell, 4.99 and pick up the AD&D boxset with the eye of the beholder series,,, pools of radiance.. etc if you want some throw back.

Or the Kings Quest,,,or Wheel of time or...wizardry...

Icewind dale II will be out soon.

There are many many RPG Games out there.

For those of us who have played almost all of the games you mentioned above, having another is not a real problem.

Puke · #5 July 24th, 2002, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
And that Midway game Puke fixed for me a while back was ascii like nethack.

someone else actually fixed that for you. i remember the thread on the forum about it, but i dont recall who actually did the work.

edit: regarding scenarios in nethack, each class has a major quest it must complete. there is also a main quest in the game, that requires a fair amount of do-ing. there are also several optional quests and levels that can be found through the game. there are also several optional role-play restrictions you can attempt to play under (maintain a pious devotion to your god, stay vegitarian, dont use genocide, dont polymorph, stay an athiest, etc)

The game called Nethack instead of Netquest, so you have to expect that the focus is not on questing and story line. there is some, but you have to be willing to streach your imagination a bit if you are concerned with playing in-character.

[ July 24, 2002, 22:08: Message edited by: Puke ]

Mephisto · #6 July 25th, 2002, 12:20 AM

IIRC SJ fixed Midway. Correct me if I'm wrong.

sachmo · #7 July 25th, 2002, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
If eye-candy is more important to people than storyline and gameplay for people here ... if folks prefer appearance over -substance- ...

.... IMO that's sad. 8(

...

Ok.... No where did i say I like the Bioware games because of eyecandy.

Bioware games have 'substance'

I just don't see why that game is being developed when the current crop of Role-Playing/Adventure games are fantastic.

Would you pay 49.99 US for that game?
When you can spend 19.99 and pick up Baulders Gate 2 ?
Or 9.99 and pick up the icewind dale games...
Hell, 4.99 and pick up the AD&D boxset with the eye of the beholder series,,, pools of radiance.. etc if you want some throw back.

Or the Kings Quest,,,or Wheel of time or...wizardry...

Icewind dale II will be out soon.

There are many many RPG Games out there.

Well off again...

Yes, but the problem with most of the above games is that the story is hard coded. Of course you are free to do what you will during the game, but eventually you have to beat the foozle and win the game. What the new Malfador games looks like is that the user is going to have the ability to, if they are so inclined, mod the game and play the entire Wheel of Time series if they wish. Or Game of Thrones. Or whatever. Now that, I personally consider superior to every game you mentioned.

P.S.-since I don't have the HD space (or probably the hardware overall) to play the new generation of games, I can't speak for them. Everyone seems to be enjoying them right now, and that's great. I'm still a bit skeptical about what people call "great" these days. When you have so much crap shoveled on you, eventually a meodicre game will appear to be "great" to some...but I digress.

Puke- I read that NetHack used to be called Hack in the old days. Even more of a clue about the gameplay!

EDIT:
[rant]Wheel of time DOES NOT deserve to be mentioned with these other games!! It was a first person shooter with a plot. Dang game really cheesed me off! [/end rant]

[ July 24, 2002, 23:38: Message edited by: sachmo ]