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				Re: Mine balance suggestion
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		That might be too much hard-code change to be workable for SE4. Maybe it could be done in SE5. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Hmm how about simply a mine scaning component?  Something that would show the existance on minefields in the system or possible within a certain range?  Perhaps advanced levels could detect the which empire owns the mines and could determine the size of the field with increasing accuracy. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Add a scanner that can detect level 5 cloaking, and you can see the mines in the default game.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		The level 5 (or 6) scanner would let you see any mines, including in systems that are not "yours"... now you would have an offensive component. 
 
Instead, how about a facility that acts as a scanner (level 5 or 6)?  Then you can detect any mines that are in your systems, but only in systems that you've colonized.  This way you'll see the mines layed by your allies in your own systems without the ability to see mines in other systems... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		That could work too.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		DOH! Never thought of a level 5 scanner.  Guess now that I think about it, it would be pretty easy to mod a whole bunch of different mines with different cloak levels and scanners to match.  I'm thinking it would be cool if cheap low tech mines only had a cloak level of 2 or 3 and would get better with better tech. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Can facilities provide scanning ability? I've never tested this one. Of course, it would allow you to see all ships in the system as well. I don't know if that's a perk or a problem.      It's probably a reasonable benefit--if you can detect 10kt space mines, you should be able to see 2500kt starbases.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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