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Old February 24th, 2012, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: mI-8 / mI-24 in German Service

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If anyone has any info on the Hinds and how they may have been armed it would be very helpful

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Default Re: mI-8 / mI-24 in German Service

Mi-24s were probably used for a short time only. Polish article claims (without details), that they were repainted, but soon were stored. In 1995 or before that date part were given to Hungary, then part to Poland.

Considering this, I'm sure, that they retained their original armament - Western rockets would need some integration, while S-8 80mm rockets were very good, and S-5 57mm were satisfactory. As for missiles, the Germans probably didn't bother with Falanga of Mi-24D, but Shturm might still be interesting in early 90s.

By the way, as for East German OOB:
122 Mi-24 Hind-A - I haven't heard about Mi-24A in Germany. Date 1/71 is unbelievable, since in 1970-71 they started to appear in USSR. Wrong picture BTW.

123 Mi-24 Hind-E - correct designation Mi-24P (Hind F, BTW). According to a mentioned Polish article, delivered only from 1988 (1/86). All Mi-24s could carry 4 missiles and 128 x S-5 57mm rockets (4x32) at a time - in the game they usually have less - this one has 32. There aren't seen smaller launchers, than 32-tube, at all.

124 Mi-24 Hind-D - correct designation Mi-24D. Same about 57mm rockets, as above.

125 Mi-24 Hind-D - correct designation Mi-24W (Hind E, BTW). Same about 57mm rockets.

920-928 - same units, with wrong Hind names, and different armament. As for 80mm rockets, they could carry 80 (4x20) - they have 40.

I've just checked German Wiki http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24 and it says, that Mi-24D were used from August 1978 (now 1/77). No mention on Mi-24A. If anybody speaks German:

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Nach der Wiedervereinigung wurden einige Maschinen bei der WTD61 (Wehrtechnische Erprobungsstelle) der Bundeswehr erprobt, je eine Mi-24D und P ging zur Feinddarstellung an die US-Armee. Die restlichen wurden bei der HFS Ost und HFS 80 (Heeresfliegerstaffel) im nichtregulären Dienst geflogen und schließlich am 14. September 1994 außer Dienst gestellt.
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Default Re: mI-8 / mI-24 in German Service

One more thing: 123 Mi-24 Hind-E has icon of Mi-24A. Seems, that camouflaged ones will be more appropriate anyway - 3487 for Mi-24D and W, 3491 for P - photo http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:M...8Berlin%29.jpg

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I've just checked German Wiki http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24 and it says, that Mi-24D were used from August 1978 (now 1/77). No mention on Mi-24A. If anybody speaks German:

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Nach der Wiedervereinigung wurden einige Maschinen bei der WTD61 (Wehrtechnische Erprobungsstelle) der Bundeswehr erprobt, je eine Mi-24D und P ging zur Feinddarstellung an die US-Armee. Die restlichen wurden bei der HFS Ost und HFS 80 (Heeresfliegerstaffel) im nichtregulären Dienst geflogen und schließlich am 14. September 1994 außer Dienst gestellt.
After the reunification some craft were evaluated by the Bundeswehr, one Mi-24D and one P were given to the US-army as OPFOR.
The rest was flown in non-regular duty and finally retired on the 14th of September 1994.
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