Making Hard Choices

legowarrior · #1 March 20th, 2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thejeff

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Originally Posted by Valerius

As much as I like Eriu (and the current CBM version is very fun), if you aren't that interested in the stealth aspect of the game they might not be a good choice. Actually no stealth or blood rules out all my favorite nations.

What about Machaka? While it's not my style of play I think they're an interesting nation and have gotten some CBM boosts.

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Originally Posted by legowarrior

What are good ways to get into Astral? Any decent summons that would allow a non astral nation (but with an astral pretender if necessary) get some astral access?

Spectres, golems, hidden in sand. Pretty sure that's it (aside from tarts of course). I'm still hoping for CBM to add some more options for breaking into astral.

Edit: Lol. Lots of responses to breaking into S. Forgot about ether lords.

Don't forget that Lizard Shaman provinces are pretty common, even in MA. It's not a guarantee and they're only 1S, but they can start site-searching at least.

Piggy backing on my last question, what's the best way to get access to any paths, starting only with your pretender? What I mean is, how do I get access to air magic or nature magic if I don't have national access to it? Death is pretty easy, as long as you have 3 death, you can summon spell casters. Earth magic has the Troll king, which for 2 earth and earth boots is a done deal.

Shangrila00 · #2 March 20th, 2012, 07:42 PM

Check the booster guide on the wiki. I think it's pretty complete, with the exception of the EDM additions in CBM. Summon Treant can give you the N/W and N/E crosspaths starting with just N, Great Krakens can give you W/B and a chance at E/N also, both of these in Enchantment. Asynja and Ember Lords can also get you crosspaths, but at Conjuration 8 and 9, you might has well get Tartarians for all your diversity needs.

On Eriu, you have 2 heroes with death. Unfortunately you have a ton of heros including a multi-hero, so even at luck 3, you might never get them in good time. If you do have the good luck to get those heroes though, you can use spectres to get astral and the E/D crosspath, then use the E/D crosspath to cast Hidden in Sand for all your fire/death/astral needs. Sadly, you can't get S3 with this, so no astral rings unless you get artifacts, which isn't going to happen with your craptastic research.

Amhazair · #3 March 21st, 2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by legowarrior

Piggy backing on my last question, what's the best way to get access to any paths, starting only with your pretender? What I mean is, how do I get access to air magic or nature magic if I don't have national access to it? Death is pretty easy, as long as you have 3 death, you can summon spell casters. Earth magic has the Troll king, which for 2 earth and earth boots is a done deal.

The thread is slightly dated, (as it doesn't include the new 'EDM' summons, but those are usually not your best bet for diversication anyway) but most of your diversification questions can still be answered here.