MP: BSoD (Newbie, LA, CBM 1.92) [Started!]

[Russian_Comrade]

Originally Posted by revenant2

Excellent. We have a few things we'd like to try out as well since you're one of the few nations (besides Marignon) that we haven't fought yet.

By the way, I'm giving notice to Atlantis that Bone Daddy's hordes will be attacking him this turn since it's obvious that an attack is imminent from him. However, we'll refrain from attacking if he still wants to be bound by the terms of the NAP.

Well, you may attack me anytime, you already broken NAP with UD and while my forces are not in thier positions it is of little importance juset now.

Yes. The map definetly helped in this case. Of course it also created a situation for me where I could expand and get way ahead in research. So it worked for me in the early game and worked against me in the mid-game when I was best positioned to check (had access to spells that would have been devestating to chaff) you but had no way to get my armies near you.

No wrapping is bad bad bad. Normally you are going to have at least three nations working against LA Ermor in the early game, this time we had two. And players in corners have great advantadge. It is possible to limit the effects of that problems with very careful map design, but it is not a trivial.


About scouts and casus belli: if you are concerned about someones scouts you may talk to that player about it. To deaclare war if someone sent a scout or two to your territory is not a good thing.

Casting Utterdark is the same thing to say "World, I want to bugger you and I'm doing this rrrrright now." I can't understand how this may even possibly lie in the gray area, sorry.

[revenant2]

Originally Posted by Russian_Comrade

No wrapping is bad bad bad. Normally you are going to have at least three nations working against LA Ermor in the early game, this time we had two. And players in corners have great advantadge. It is possible to limit the effects of that problems with very careful map design, but it is not a trivial.

Another major factor was that we had a few people go AI earlier than they should have in my view, which didn't help the cause of the living. I'm sure Midgard and R'lyeh had legitimate reasons, but they could have really slowed me down if they were managed by a person. Even as an AI they each managed to wipe a large army -- and I'm still haven't taken Midgard's capitol yet.

[mattyburn7]

Yes. That drives me nuts when players go AI early. I can understand when you have no army left and no prospect for raising an army. I can also understand when the game is pretty much done (like this one is now) or if your personal life gets in the way. But we were begging Midgard and Pangaea(when Aderion was playing) to think about the threat of Ermor and they showed little interest...and of course when Midgard got invaded he bailed. R'lyeh also. I really respect Parone for hanging in. He probably prevented me from getting attacked.

Hell I'm in another game now where I was just down to my capital and it was seiged. The player seiging me got attacked by 2 other nations and now I'm able to break the siege and even grabbed a couple of provinces. I won't win, and yes I'd rather be competetive in the game, but I'll have a hell of a good time being a thorn in his side now, learning a few things and see how far I can get.

A lot of respect also for Russian. He could have bailed after Patala and R'lyeh did, but he didn't. Holey also kept at it.

Originally Posted by revenant2

Another major factor was that we had a few people go AI earlier than they should have in my view, which didn't help the cause of the living. I'm sure Midgard and R'lyeh had legitimate reasons, but they could have really slowed me down if they were managed by a person. Even as an AI they each managed to wipe a large army -- and I'm still haven't taken Midgard's capitol yet.

[revenant2]

Originally Posted by mattyburn7

I can also understand when the game is pretty much done (like this one is now) or if your personal life gets in the way. But we were begging Midgard and Pangaea(when Aderion was playing) to think about the threat of Ermor and they showed little interest...and of course when Midgard got invaded he bailed. R'lyeh also. I really respect Parone for hanging in. He probably prevented me from getting attacked.

I know you guys are about ready to throw in the towel, but if everyone banded together you still might be able to make a go of this thing. I'll readily admit that I'm in a incredibly strong position (assaulting my homeland would be the stuff of nightmares for an invader) and the chances are definitely in my favor, but I'm still a newbie with only one game under my belt and another one that's in progress (I'm about to lose that game in progress BTW), and it feels like I barely know what I'm doing half the time, so there's still a little bit of hope.

I'm all with you about Paron: He was a steely eyed missile man throughout this entire game and deserves a huge amount of credit for tenaciously resisting Ulm.

[parone]

I'm all with you about Paron: He was a steely eyed missile man throughout this entire game and deserves a huge amount of credit for tenaciously resisting Ulm.[/quote]

this makes me sound so much cooler than i have ever actually been in real life. thanks rev.