OOB 67 - Sudan

Djuice · #1 September 13th, 2012, 12:00 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_7INUHI20M

Another video showing the same equipments, but this time back in 2009.

http://mic.sd/english/products.html

Military Industry Corporation, which manufactures light and heavy equipment for the Sudan's Peoples Armed Forces.

Includes Shareef 1/2 which is the BTR-80A with 30mm 2A72.7.62mm MG, and Chinese Type 92 (WZ-551) with 30mm 2A72/7.62 MG.

http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Sec...5301203098635/

"The Sudan military parade in 2007 had a strong Chinese color, as most of the armored weapons were from China. The same parade revealed that the Sudan air force had Chinese-made K8 military trainers. Three K8 trainers and three MiG-29s flew over the capital during the parade. Images from the parade have revealed to the world that the Sudanese army resembles a second Chinese Liberation Army."

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #2 September 14th, 2012, 01:45 AM

1. This is always a good start point...
http://www.armyrecognition.com/sudan...ence_pict.html

2. No evidence of newer Chinese type tanks, but refs point to Chinese anti-tank mines. However this source (amnesty.) shows a picture of a T-72M1 of Ukrainian origin. In PDF format, for the topic at hand go to page 18. The second ref also cites T-54/55 tanks as well at the same location the T-72M1 was photographed. The number has to be small though for all types, especially the T-72's.
The source of ref two is generally considered good and is looked at by official agencies because they can sometimes get into places others can't. Linked to ref two by ref one news sources.
http://www.kyivpost.com/content/worl...ct-308922.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18621674
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/as...50022012en.pdf

You might find item 1 armor of interest, The M-60A3 I've seen in the national news broadcasts here in the states when the war was being covered.

Regards,
Pat

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #3 September 14th, 2012, 01:48 PM

Saw a 503 Error (Whatever that is-don't care either.) on the Amnesty ref of the last post. So here is a 2nd link provided by the BBC ref of the last as well. Study conducted by the Canadian Govt./UN Sudan mission groups. Again no proof of newer Chinese tanks, though China has been a major supplier of ammunition and light weapons. The Ukrainian T-72 tanks are confirmed, with the one pictured looking like the T-72M1 if I was to make the call. This would back the Amnesty Report as well. The PDF report is very detailed to the groups involved, manning, weapons, AOO and logistics etc. These are from April 2012. Amnesty report and BBC article of previous post were from June 2012.
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/about...hsba-ib19.html
http://www.smallarmssurveysudan.org/...outh-Sudan.pdf

Regards,
Pat

Just verified links are good.
Amnesty link of previous good now-503 must be a temporary thing-I LEARNED SOMETHING.

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #4 September 14th, 2012, 02:36 PM

Couldn't get it in there in time and almost forgot, But all the refs thus far said South Sudan got the improved Ukrainian
T-72M1, that would make them under Ukrainian designation then the T-72MP here are the improvements "in a nut shell" as follows...
"T-72MP
Ukrainian upgrade with a 1,000-hp engine, added armor, Shtora-1, and SAGEM FCS and thermal sights."

http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/t72mp.php,

Click on Mobility, Protection and Firepower under "T-72 modernization..." for more in-depth system info above the comparison table. I would think these are readily available in the Ukraine OOB. This is one of the tanks the OPLOT was meant to replace.

Sorry about that a long night and early start today. Must've felt my son-in-laws pain of "hell night" before his CPO pinning ceremony this morning.
That's right Suhiir another "bubblehead" in the family!?!

Have a great weekend everyone!

Regards,
Pat