Congo 1964

troopie · #1 December 4th, 2012, 04:16 PM

In one of the Red Orbats there are Simbas for the 1960s Congo. The ANC of the 1960s was organised similarly to the Belgian army, save with older weapons, fewer heavy weapons and poorer discipline. The Mercenaries were organised variously, the 4 and 5 Commando IIRC folowed British procedure, 6 Commando followed French procedure, 14 Commando followed Belgian procedure.

Official guerrilla TOEs should not be taken too seriously. Guerrillas, here the Simbas, Kasais, Katangese tend to be armed with what they can get from whoever. The Simbas did have some older Chinese weapons.

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centurion77 · #2 December 7th, 2012, 06:33 AM

How about making a set of flags (Congo, Biafra, etc.) and Mods that we can add and remove personaly as needed?
So no need to occupy slots, just overwrite.
I could just create the needed flags, but I can't 'draw' on a computer....

Miketee10022 · #3 December 31st, 2012, 07:43 AM

Thanks for the added posts. Is it possible to overwrite a given nation's orbat entirely? Thus - if we come up with a Congolese flag, can we overwrite - say - Bosnia Herzegovina or something?

I have a friend - a fairly accomplished military historian and game designer - who is compiling a very detailed orbat for both the Congolese themselves (Simbas, ANC, etc.) and the mercs for the period of the early to mid sixties. Once we have our OOB's in order, I'd love to be able to offer it here.

Also - the ability to replace one nation's orbat with another brings up some interesting possibilites. I am thinking in terms of creating several different games of SP MBT built around regions - Africa, S. America, Europe, Asia. So I await any feedback on this.

wulfir · #4 January 1st, 2013, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Miketee10022

So I await any feedback on this.

A word of caution - building working OOBs is harder than it looks at first glance.

I'd advise you to talk to the pro's before you get going, might save you some time. You'll be in for a lot of work nevertheless, just finishing that Congo OOB is going to take you some time, nevermind replacing the mix of countries with obscure nations from say Africa or South America.

You've got to be dead certain why you yourself want this too - because you'll likely do almost all the work yourself. Maybe you'll be the only one using these OOBs in the end too...

...the big idea about several versions of the game encompassing a load of various countries sounds overwhelming to me. Building just the Congo OOB might be doable...

...but what do I know, you might be an induvidual with extreme drive and staying power.

Miketee10022 · #5 January 1st, 2013, 04:48 AM

Thanks Warhero and Wulfir. For the moment, I am going to concentrate on just the Congo in the early 1960's. But yes, I am a newbie at creating and even editing OOB's, so I will likely be asking for some help here. I can also offer a text version of the OOB's for those who are just curious as to the forces that fought in the Congo at that time (early 60's).

wulfir · #6 January 1st, 2013, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Miketee10022

But yes, I am a newbie at creating and even editing OOB's, so I will likely be asking for some help here.

Before you start - try to understand the details of how the AI handles the OOB and how the AI moves units. It makes a difference in how you organize your OOB. You might need to make compromises with historical OOBs becasue of this...

Do you have any details on the Gendarmerie and the Irish Bn in Katanga...?