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February 8th, 2015, 04:17 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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BTR-90...Had more but this from ref. 1/para 1 is from the manufacturer GAZ, "The vehicle was intended for the use of mechanized units of the Russian Army as well as marine units of the Russian Navy, as a vehicle for fire support, transportation of personnel, surveillance, reconnaissance, and patrolling tasks." and from para 1/ref.2 "A small number of these APCs are in service with Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs." we had a similar situation when I submitted the BPM-97 (And one of my very first submissions.) we then decided though in use with Border Guards we at the time could not connect it to the main stream military (The link can be made now as new information became available years later.) and we decided not to enter it. If you remember and those refs supported it, the BTR-90 situation is what drove the BTR-82 just over 3 years ago getting into the game when I submitted it. The BPM-97 and BTR-82 data is at the bottom of the refs.
http://www.gaz.vehiclemechanics.net/btr90/1
http://www.military-today.com/apc/btr_90.htm
http://tanknutdave.com/the-russian-b...hting-vehicle/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...sia/btr-90.htm
http://armour.ws/btr-90-apc/
http://www.military-today.com/apc/btr_82.htm
(Tie in again in the first para to the BTR-90.)
http://www.military-today.com/apc/bpm_97.htm
(Original source as posted in the very beginning of the MRAP Thread I believe.)
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/bpm-97-apc/
(Updated source Paras 6/7.)
http://www.military-today.com/apc/bumerang.htm
(This last caused us a lot of aggravation as well because some thought this to be a revived BTR-90 around the time we worked through the BTR-82 some might find that process interesting, it is all in this Thread. This is on my list as well but it is slightly behind schedule at this time.)
I recommend taking out the BTR-90 and I'm personally holding off on the BPM-97 myself though on my submission list again due to some still "lingering fog" on the subject. I would rather the slot(s) be available for at least one or two of the Russian MRAPS I know they're getting/have in the Army just recently. Just my "2 cents" on this.
Only one more Softball left to go the F-35 and what a mess it is worldwide but I will offer a very simple solution.
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February 8th, 2015, 09:36 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
Ran out of time to edit...
I recommend taking out the BTR-90 and I'm personally holding off on the BPM-97 myself though on my submission list again due to some still "lingering fog" on the subject. I would rather the slot(s) be available for at least one or two of the Russian MRAPS I know they're getting/have in the Army just recently. Just my "2 cents" on this.
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I don't have time to look for more references you already provided, but I agree with you on the BTR-90. From what I have read it has not been accepted by the Russian Army and it appears that it's no longer even being considered. The Interior Ministry troops (VV, Vnutrenniye Voiska) are using the existing pre-production vehicles, but the numbers are very small, and there is no new production.
Additionally, it seems that the BTR-90 was never even intended to replace the BTR-80, since it's much too expensive for that. The Russian Army still has a huge number of BTR-70 vehicles, which have gas engines and need to be replaced with something relatively inexpensive.
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
As noted in the MBT Thread, Don and I have had some discussion about the "BOOMERANG" over the last 2>3 years now. Well from when I first came across this and brought it up I can finally say it exists. Again it sorta reminds me of the Patria AMV.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/april...ay_parade.html
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russi...telligenc.html
The highlighted portions will link you to those pieces of equipment I mentioned in the MBT Thread.
Not mentioned is the fact that the Russian Paras are starting to take deliveries of 2 different types of APC/IFV's.
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Another Boomerang pic.
There're rumours, that Russians are preparing a fire support version of Boomerang with heavier weaponry.
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April 22nd, 2015, 01:12 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Big pictures of T-15 and Kurganets.
Looks like there are TWO types of APS on every vehicle... 
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Alright from the ref below, the following pieces of equipment have been "approved" to appear in the Russian Victory Day Parade. With the following exceptions the rest are on my tracking sheet for submission of which over 3/4 are or will be fielded this year. The exceptions are the GAZ, S-400, ICBM and the T-90A which I thought was a couple of years out yet. Obviously due to limits of the OOB at current levels I will need to prioritize these submissions. This collection on the whole (Less ICBM one.) I believe would fill out the Russian OOB.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/april...ay_9_2015.html
I put this here as the ref is more APC/IFV heavy then in the other categories.
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May 4th, 2015, 02:09 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
All new russian vehicles with turrets revealed. I think there is also an IFV Boomerang variant.
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